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Tilman Hausherr edited comment on PDFBOX-6249 at 8/31/26 6:43 PM:
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I am beginning to understand what happens. The "filter by CIDSystemInfo, if 
given" part doesn't match. PDFBox ends up using DroidSans, which is a mess. 
(Had there be no fonts at all on the system, it would have used the Liberation 
Sans fallback and it would have worked). The Droid Sans font does not have a 
proper "A". 0xFF21 is "Fullwidth Latin Capital Letter A". The real "A" would be 
0x0041. I think that font should be avoided like we already do for barcode 
fonts.

!image-2026-08-31-20-35-16-505.png!


was (Author: tilman):
I am beginning to understand what happens. The "filter by CIDSystemInfo, if 
given" part doesn't match (the CJK fonts are OTF fonts, not TTF). PDFBox ends 
up using DroidSans, which is a mess. (Had there be no fonts at all on the 
system, it would have used the Liberation Sans fallback and it would have 
worked). The Droid Sans font does not have a proper "A". 0xFF21 is "Fullwidth 
Latin Capital Letter A". The real "A" would be 0x0041. I think that font should 
be avoided like we already do for barcode fonts.

!image-2026-08-31-20-35-16-505.png!

> Non-embedded Adobe-GB1/CNS1/Japan1 fonts render as .notdef even when Noto CJK 
> / Source Han fonts are installed
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: PDFBOX-6249
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PDFBOX-6249
>             Project: PDFBox
>          Issue Type: Task
>          Components: Rendering
>            Reporter: Tim Allison
>            Priority: Minor
>         Attachments: cjk-cid-repro.pdf, image-2026-08-31-18-22-38-997.png, 
> image-2026-08-31-20-35-16-505.png
>
>
> I ran a rendering bake-off with pdftoppm vs PDFBox on the 1k pdfs in [digital 
> corpora 
> 0000.zip|https://digitalcorpora.s3.amazonaws.com/corpora/files/CC-MAIN-2021-31-PDF-UNTRUNCATED/zipfiles/0000-0999/0000.zip]
>  
> There was a small handful of files where pdftoppm and pdfium were handling 
> missing cjk fonts a bit better than PDFBox.
>  
> Specifically: 
> ||file||non-embedded CID font||collection||
> |0000000.pdf|MSungStd-Light-Acro|Adobe-CNS1|
> |0000063.pdf|STSongStd-Light-Acro|Adobe-GB1|
> |0000750.pdf|MSungStd-Light-Acro|Adobe-CNS1|
> |0000877.pdf|KozGoPro-Medium-Acro|Adobe-Japan1|
> |0000908.pdf|MSungStd-Light-Acro|Adobe-CNS1|
>  
> I had Claude generate a small repro file (attached).



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