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John Hewson edited comment on PDFBOX-2530 at 6/22/15 1:43 AM: -------------------------------------------------------------- The "jump" makes the tree view unusable with a keyboard (which is the only way I use it) and breaks the notion of what it means to select a tree node - when I click on a node, I don't want to jump elsewhere in the tree. PDFs contain many indirect objects, so I don't see what makes Parent objects special which merits this behaviour. Conceptually if both the parent itself and child reference to it are indirect, then neither of these entries represents the "actual" object, they're equal, and both deserve to be treated identically. Expanding indirect objects inline is _exactly_ the behaviour I expect and find useful, jumping elsewhere is an unpleasant surprise. It's good to experiment with these things but this patch introduces too much weird behaviour. We can keep it around for future reference, but it's probably best to move on to the next task. It was worth experiment nonetheless, so thank you. was (Author: jahewson): The "jump" makes the tree view unusable with a keyboard (which is the only way I use it) and breaks the notion of what it means to select a tree node - when I click on a node, I don't want to jump elsewhere in the tree. PDFs contain many indirect objects, so I don't see what makes Parent objects special which merits this behaviour. Conceptually if both the parent itself and child reference to it are indirect, then neither of these entries represents the "actual" object, they're equal, and both deserve to be treated identically. Expanding indirect objects inline is _exactly_ the behaviour I expect and find useful, jumping elsewhere is an unpleasant surprise. It's good to experiment with these things but this patch introduces too much weird behaviour. We can keep it around for future reference, but it's probably best to move on to the next task. > Improve PDFDebugger > ------------------- > > Key: PDFBOX-2530 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PDFBOX-2530 > Project: PDFBox > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Utilities > Affects Versions: 1.8.8, 2.0.0 > Reporter: Tilman Hausherr > Assignee: khyrul bashar > Labels: gsoc2015 > Attachments: BracketsColorChooser.png, DeviceNCS.diff, > PDFDebugger_StatusBar.png, PDFDebugger_StatusBar_01.png, indexedcs.diff, > openSelectedPath.diff, parent_node_redirect.diff, > parent_node_redirect_expand_disabled.diff, removed_redundant_codes.patch, > separationCS.diff, tree.diff, treestatus.diff, treestatuspane.diff > > > (This is an idea for the [Google Summer of Code > 2015|https://www.google-melange.com/]) > Our command line utility PDFDebugger (part of the command line pdfbox-app get > it [here|https://pdfbox.apache.org/downloads.html], read description > [here|https://pdfbox.apache.org/commandline/], see the source code > [here|https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/pdfbox/trunk/tools/src/main/java/org/apache/pdfbox/tools/PDFDebugger.java?view=markup&sortby=date]) > needs some improvements: > - hex view > - view of non printable characters > - saving streams > - binary copy & paste > - Create a status line that shows where we are in the tree. (Like in the > Windows REGEDIT) > - Copy the current tree string into the clipboard (useful in discussions > about details of a PDF) > - (Optional, not sure if easy) Jump to specific place in the tree by > entering tree string > - ability to search in streams (very useful for content streams and meta > data) > - show images that are streams > - show PDIndexed color lookup table, show the index value, the base and > RGB color value sets when the mouse moves > - show PDSeparation color > - show PDDeviceN colors > - optional, idea should be developed a bit: show meaningful explanation on > some attributes, e.g. "appearance stream" when hovering over /AP > - show font encodings and characters > - display flag bits (e.g. Annotation flags) in a way that is easy to > understand. There are probably others, I assume that the main work needs to > be done only once > - edit attributes (should be possible to enter values as decimal, hex or > binary) > - edit streams, while keeping or changing the compression filter > - save altered PDF > - color mark of certain PDF operators, especially Q...q and text operators > (BT...ET). Ideally, it should help the user understand the "bracketing" of > these operators, i.e. understand where a sequence starts and where it ends. > (See "operator summary" in the PDF Spec) Other "important" operators I can > think of are the matrix, font and color operators. A cool advanced thing > would be to show the current color or the font in a popup when hovering above > such an operator. > To see a product with a similar purpose that is better than PDFDebugger, > watch [this video|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-QcU9B4qMc]. > I'm not asking to implement a clone of that product (I don't use it, all I > know is that video), but we at PDFBox really need something that makes PDF > debugging easier. As an example of how the current PDFDebugger prevented me > from finding a bug quickly, see PDFBOX-2401 and search for "PDFDebugger". > Prerequisites: > - java programming, especially the GUI components > - the ability to understand existing source code > Using external software components is possible (must have Apache License or a > compatible one), but should be decided on a case-by-case basis, we don't want > to get too big. > Development strategy: go from the easy to the difficult. The wished features > are already sorted this way (mostly). > Get introduced: [download the source code with > svn|https://pdfbox.apache.org/downloads.html#scm] and build it with maven. > Run PDFDebugger and view some PDFs to see the components of a PDF. Start with > the file of PDFBOX-2401. Read up something about the structure of PDF on the > web or from the [PDF > Specification|https://www.adobe.com/devnet/pdf/pdf_reference.html]. > Mentor: Tilman Hausherr (European timezone, languages: german, english, > french). To see the GSoC2014 project I mentored, go to PDFBOX-1915. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@pdfbox.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@pdfbox.apache.org