While effective, it doesn't feel quite right. The dev list should be consumable, without needing to resort to that.
I fear it's also causing noise towards IPMC/mentors, which e.g. have not responded to the package name discussion. On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 18:12 Sean Glover <[email protected]> wrote: > In the meantime I'm using a gmail filter for this list: ( > to:[email protected]) -(from:[email protected]) > > On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 6:13 AM Greg Methvin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sure, "commits" for commit notifications and "notifications" for all > other > > notifications sounds fine to me. > > > > On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 2:29 AM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > 'commits' is one of the standard mailing lists added for all projects. > > > I suggest we keep that for commit tracking. > > > > > > 'notifications' is a mailing list used by a lot of teams for Github > > > notifications - eg > > > https://lists.apache.org/[email protected] > > > > > > I'd prefer to use names for the mailing lists that match the names in > > > other projects. If 'notifications' sounds ok, I can request Infra team > > > to create that list and change the incubator-pekko repo to send Github > > > issue and PR notifications to that mailing list. > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Nov 2022 at 23:36, Greg Methvin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can we just move all the github notifications to the commits@ > mailing > > > list > > > > (and maybe rename it to github@ or something)? It seems like most of > > us > > > > prefer to get the notifications directly from GitHub, so I don't > think > > > > there's much value in splitting them out into separate mailing lists, > > > > especially since you can just set up mail filters on that list to get > > > just > > > > the notifications you want. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 13:03 PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > We probably need more mailing lists. If we had an 'issues' list > and a > > > > > 'pullrequests' list then we could keep these emails off the dev > list. > > > > > > > > > > People could choose to ignore or just dip into the lower priority > > > > > lists using https://lists.apache.org/ > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Nov 2022 at 19:45, Matthew Benedict de Detrich > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah I am also not sure what value this brings considering that > > > Github > > > > > > pretty much sends you the exact same notifications, I am at the > > > point of > > > > > > putting it into a filter so it goes to ignore. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 7:42 PM Jean-Luc Deprez < > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anybody else feeling a little swamped with the gitbox > > notifications > > > > > still > > > > > > > going to dev? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Especially because it seems like the goal was to work GH > centric, > > > but > > > > > if > > > > > > > you watch in GH + the mailing list, it's a good way to go > > > completely > > > > > > > bonkers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've also attempted to switch to digest for commits list, but I > > > can't > > > > > say I > > > > > > > have received anything yet, so I wonder with what frequency > that > > > > > happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022, 10:31 PJ Fanning <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've updated the notifications config on the incubator-pekko > > git > > > > > repo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The new config should mean that PR status events (new PR, > > closed > > > PR) > > > > > > > > still go to the dev mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comments on PRs will be notified to the commits mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In theory, we could get extra mailing lists created. This > would > > > allow > > > > > > > > for the notifications to be more finely controlled. The > > downside > > > is > > > > > > > > that more mailing lists need to be followed, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For now, I think the 3 mailing lists we have is enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 10:14, PJ Fanning <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/[email protected] > > > has > > > > > commit > > > > > > > > > emails already > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could someone provide an actual email that they don't want > to > > > > > appear > > > > > > > > > on the > > https://lists.apache.org/[email protected] > > > > > mailing > > > > > > > > > list? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it the Github Pull Request messages that people are > > unhappy > > > > > about? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 09:52, PJ Fanning < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/git+-+.asf.yaml+features > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've added .asf.yaml to all the pekko repos but didn't > set > > > any > > > > > > > > > > 'notifications' settings. I could try setting one in the > > main > > > > > pekko > > > > > > > > > > repo for commits to see if I can get it right and later > > roll > > > out > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > the other repos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 09:46, Claude Warren, Jr > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I went back and looked, we already have a > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > mailinglist, we just have to redirect to it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 8:38 AM Andreas Gabor < > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven’t seen any commit related emails or do you > mean > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > notifications around PR activities like comments from > > > GitBox? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "[GitHub] [incubator-pekko] mdedetrich commented on a > > > diff in > > > > > > > pull > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > > #2: Update and apply scalafmt” > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If yes: I’m already filtering them out as I’m getting > > the > > > > > > > > notifications > > > > > > > > > > > > directly on GitHub but a separate email list would > > still > > > make > > > > > > > > sense. Even > > > > > > > > > > > > though a more generic address like > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > <mailto: > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> seems more appropriate? (As > > > it’s > > > > > not > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > commits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3. 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