@Matthew Benedict de Detrich <[email protected]> I would open the ticket if the intention was for it to be public.
@[email protected] <[email protected]> I think they add a bit, but not much as you say. However since we have one created, let's move forward with it for a bit and see if there is an advantage of the project over the milestone. I think that a milestone can be placed in a project, and that might give you the sub-task type grouping. Claude On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 6:16 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't believe that Github projects really gives us much. It is so basic. > > The milestone in Github is probably as useful and is public - > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/milestone/1 > > > On 2023/02/08 17:33:52 Matthew Benedict de Detrich wrote: > > > I do not know how to change from private to public project (though I > think > > that is what we want) > > > > Should I make an INFRA ticket for this? > > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 6:21 PM Claude Warren, Jr > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The project is "private" so it is not visible. I tried the following: > > > > > > 1. Open an incognito or private browser session > > > 2. go to https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects > > > > > > you will see a list of projects (Pekko not included) > > > > > > > > > 1. Using your logged in account go to > > > https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects > > > > > > You will see Pekko project as a recent project. Note that it is > listed as > > > a "private" project. > > > > > > I do not know how to change from private to public project (though I > think > > > that is what we want) > > > > > > As far as not being able to have subtasks. I think we can work around > > > that. What we need is to put all the required tasks into the project > so > > > that once they are completed we know we have a release candidate. > > > > > > Claude > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 8:37 PM Jean-Luc Deprez < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > The projects is indeed invisible to non committers 🤷♂️ > > > > > > > > The milestone of course is visible. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Matthew Benedict de Detrich > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The main thing that I don't like is that you don't seem to be > able to > > > > > create subtasks of tasks. > > > > > > > > > > So I think this as a concept is alien to github, there is no such > thing > > > > as > > > > > sub tasks of tasks. At least from what I can tell, you just link > tasks > > > to > > > > > another (often just by literally placing a link to the task > somewhere > > > in > > > > > the comment) and if. you want something like "subtasks" or lets > say an > > > > > "epic" this would be done with labels. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for setting this up though, ill try and have a look at it. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 2:07 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I enabled Github projects but am a little disappointed by its > feature > > > > > set. > > > > > > I've never used it before. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects/220/views/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure about access - in theory, any member of the Apache > > > > > committers > > > > > > Github group can access it. We may be able to invite other people > > > > (looks > > > > > > like there is an invite box). If does not look like we can make > it > > > > fully > > > > > > public. > > > > > > > > > > > > The main thing that I don't like is that you don't seem to be > able to > > > > > > create subtasks of tasks. > > > > > > > > > > > > The 2 tasks I added are high level and should be replaced with > > > smaller > > > > > > tasks. I just added them to see how they appear in the various > views. > > > > > > > > > > > > It could be worth looking at alternatives like adding a page to > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PEKKO or using a > shared > > > > > > Google Sheet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2023/02/02 17:26:13 Matthew Benedict de Detrich wrote: > > > > > > > Agreed, github projects was created to solve this problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 4:18 PM PJ Fanning < > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We could try using GitHub projects. I would just use the main > > > pekko > > > > > > github > > > > > > > > repo instead of creating more repos. We have a lot already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu 2 Feb 2023, 15:29 Claude Warren, Jr, < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > .invalid> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we could create a new project called "First Pekko > core > > > > > > > > prerelease" > > > > > > > > > (or something like that) and put all of the issues into the > > > > > project, > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > have a quick overview of all the bits that need fixing > before > > > we > > > > > can > > > > > > move > > > > > > > > > on to other modules. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 8:46 PM Matthew Benedict de Detrich > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Commenting where I can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 5:43 PM Keith Wansbrough > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Following up on PJ's list of key issues remaining and > my > > > > offer > > > > > to > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > out, I've had a stab at working out the status of each > of > > > > those > > > > > > > > issues > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > particular, is someone already working on it and if so > > > where? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've also identified a couple of other issues I think > are > > > > worth > > > > > > > > > > addressing > > > > > > > > > > > at this stage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you check I've got this right? Then I can > pick > > > an > > > > > open > > > > > > > > issue > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > work on, and maybe others can do so too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Key issues remaining in incubator-pekko: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the Apache license headers into the source > > > files > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blocked on > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/38 > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is actually done, I have closed the github issue to > > > > reflect > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the nightlies published > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In progress at > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/103 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed, I am working on this (see > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/pull/105). > Note > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > publish > > > > > > > > > > terminology is currently being overloaded, currently the > > > first > > > > > > > > iteration > > > > > > > > > > of Apache nightlies is working (see > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/pull/60) but > this > > > is > > > > > > > > according > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > Apache's release guidelines which is basically just > copying > > > > > > content to > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > folder (done by rsync). This is separate to an actual > Maven > > > > > > publish to > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > nexus repo (which is what I am working on now). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the doc site up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In progress at > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/99 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * careful review of the docs to remove any remaining > > > > > > references to > > > > > > > > > > > > Lightbend or Akka (including logos) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In progress at > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/pull/100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * new look and feel for the docs (just so they don't > look > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > the Akka ones) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In progress at > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/92 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * review the automated test failures > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems open for contribution - I can't find an issue or > PR > > > for > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * source and binary distributions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In progress at > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/85 > > > > > > > > > (see > > > > > > > > > > > also > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/78) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't say this in progress, rather some > > > > prototyping/initial > > > > > > > > > thinking > > > > > > > > > > needs to be done on which sbt plugin to use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * upgrade dependency jars if they have CVEs (unless > we > > > need > > > > > to > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > > > > major changes to facilitate the upgrade) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is blocked for now; see explanation at > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/issues/101 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also see a few other things that need to be done: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Create a migration guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am going to make an issue tangentially related to this > > > > because > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > non trivial technical tasks to solve for migrating, i.e. > wire > > > > > > > > > > incompatibility when migrating currently running Peko > > > clusters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Improve README and contribution guide, e.g., to make > > > clear > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > > status and how to help right now (in our pre-v1.0 > state), > > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > > build > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > test locally, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Resolve issues identified by podling scan ( > > > > > > > > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/pekko.html - > currently > > > > > > reports > > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > > things missing which we do have; looks like this might > be > > > > > simply > > > > > > due > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > http://pekko.incubator.apache.org/ being a 404 at the > > > > moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --KW 8-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: Keith Wansbrough > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2023 5:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: M0 release for incubator-pekko repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks PJ. I hope to put some effort into Pekko over > the > > > next > > > > > few > > > > > > > > > weeks, > > > > > > > > > > > so this comes at the right time! We have a few > components > > > > > > currently > > > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > Akka and would much prefer to move to a community fork > than > > > > > > either > > > > > > > > > > maintain > > > > > > > > > > > an internal fork or rewrite from scratch. I'll take a > look > > > > and > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > can do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --KW 8-) > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Keith Wansbrough > > > > > > > > > > > he/him > > > > > > > > > > > PRINCIPAL SOFTWARE ENGINEER > > > > > > > > > > > Azure for Operators > > > > > > > > > > > Office: +44 131 662 1212 > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/kw217 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: Matthew Benedict de Detrich < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > .INVALID> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2023 4:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: M0 release for incubator-pekko repo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with the sentiment that in general we should be > > > > > focusing > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > pekko-core (in any case it's necessary for all of the > other > > > > > pekko > > > > > > > > > > modules). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned in my earlier email today pekko-core is > in a > > > > good > > > > > > state > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > work on right now, so it should be quite practical to > split > > > > out > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned work amongst the community. The main > technical > > > task > > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > to figure out how migrating from an Akka to Pekko > cluster > > > > would > > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Matthew de Detrich > > > > > > > > > > > Aiven Deutschland GmbH > > > > > > > > > > > Immanuelkirchstraße 26, 10405 Berlin > > > > > > > > > > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen > > > > > > > > > > > m: +491603708037 > > > > > > > > > > > w: aiven.io e: [email protected] On 5. Jan > 2023 > > > at > > > > > > 16:16 > > > > > > > > > +0100, > > > > > > > > > > > PJ Fanning <[email protected]>, wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to ignore that there are other pekko git > > > repos. A > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > same work needs to be done for those repos but it > > > > simplifies > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > conversation to ignore them in this thread. We can > come > > > > back > > > > > to > > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > > > > > > later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been good progress but there is a lot > still to > > > > do. > > > > > > Some > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > the key issues remaining include. > > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the Apache license headers into the source > > > files > > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the nightlies published > > > > > > > > > > > > * getting the doc site up > > > > > > > > > > > > * careful review of the docs to remove any remaining > > > > > > references to > > > > > > > > > > > > Lightbend or Akka (including logos) > > > > > > > > > > > > * new look and feel for the docs (just so they don't > look > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > the Akka ones) > > > > > > > > > > > > * review the automated test failures > > > > > > > > > > > > * source and binary distributions > > > > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgit > > > > > > > > > > > > hub.com > > > > > > > > > > %2Fapache%2Fincubator-pekko%2Fissues%2F78&data=05%7C01%7Ckeith. > > > > > > > > > > > > wansbrough%40microsoft.com > > > > > > > > > %7C7fe1bf8cc3124e5f972808daef3e0352%7C72f988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638085346898446381%7CUnknown%7CTW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nkW09wiJ0vZMOSn%2FR7U8Gql%2FvC820cEaC7%2F > > > > > > > > > > > > XUdQjfM0%3D&reserved=0) > > > > > > > > > > > > * upgrade dependency jars if they have CVEs (unless > we > > > need > > > > > to > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > > > > major changes to facilitate the upgrade) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of these tasks are in progress but most of the > tasks > > > > > > could be > > > > > > > > > > > > taken on by willing volunteers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There may be an argument that we could try an early > M0 or > > > > M1 > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > to allow outside lib maintainers and other interested > > > > parties > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > > > > out the new libs. 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