> There is no requirement to use cwiki that I know of. As long as the process is documented and produces acceptable results it should be fine.
If that's the case then my preference is github for reasons stated earlier but I also would be fine if the community decides for cwiki On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 3:16 PM Claude Warren, Jr <[email protected]> wrote: > There is no requirement to use cwiki that I know of. As long as the > process is documented and produces acceptable results it should be fine. > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 2:08 PM Matthew Benedict de Detrich > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > (I was meant to say Clear instead of clearly before) > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 3:07 PM Matthew Benedict de Detrich < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The Lightbend release notes were already removed. I'm talking about > > > the release process. > > > Files like: > > > * https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/blob/main/RELEASING.md > > > * > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/blob/main/scripts/release-train-issue-template.md > > > > > > Clearly, I meant to say the release process earlier (sorry for using > the > > > wrong words) so my stance still stands, we should remove those and > > replace > > > them with our own (which we are doing) that follows the Apache process. > > > > > > It would be good to clarify if we are forced to use cwiki for release > > > process but I suspect that we will end up using it anyway. > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 2:57 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > >> The Lightbend release notes were already removed. I'm talking about > > >> the release process. > > >> Files like: > > >> * https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/blob/main/RELEASING.md > > >> * > > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/blob/main/scripts/release-train-issue-template.md > > >> > > >> They are sort of getting in the way when trying to replace > > >> Lightbend/Akka branding. We have other discussions open about the > > >> release process and I really don't want this thread to turn into an > > >> offset of those threads. > > >> > > >> The Pekko release notes should also be discussed in their own separate > > >> thread. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-612 is a > > >> discussion about the Github release feature. > > >> > > >> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 at 14:45, Matthew Benedict de Detrich > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > cwiki feels better controlled and less likely to be accidentally > > >> modified > > >> > without discussion on the mailing list. > > >> > > > >> > If the goal is to optimize for minimization of accidental > modification > > >> > without proper review, I would actually think purely as a tool > having > > >> the > > >> > release notes in github would be far more effective due to its > review > > >> > system (i.e. PR's have to be approved before the matter of fact). > > There > > >> are > > >> > also other technical advantages to having release notes on github > > (wiki > > >> or > > >> > otherwise), i.e. release notes have a tendency to reference actual > > code > > >> (I > > >> > can easily see this in our case with referencing and then > documenting > > >> sbt > > >> > tasks/commands) which due to our source code also being hosted in > > >> github is > > >> > both more ergonomic and also less likely to get out of sync (which > is > > a > > >> > common occurrence with disparate systems). > > >> > > > >> > That being said, it does seem there is strong precedent for having > the > > >> > release notes in cwiki rather than github (wiki or otherwise) and I > > >> don't > > >> > know if an escape hatch of "having release notes on github with a > > >> reference > > >> > on cwiki" is desirable or even appropriate. > > >> > > > >> > Regarding the Lightbend release notes, I am definitely all in for > > >> removing > > >> > them and referencing their site/docs if needed. > > >> > > > >> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 2:17 PM Claude Warren, Jr > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > +1 > > >> > > > > >> > > cwiki feels better controlled and less likely to be accidentally > > >> modified > > >> > > without discussion on the mailing list. > > >> > > > > >> > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 12:44 PM PJ Fanning <[email protected] > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hi everyone, > > >> > > > So far, when updating the Github and Paradox markdown files, > I've > > >> tended > > >> > > > to leave the Lightbend specific release train scripts and docs > > >> behind. > > >> > > Our > > >> > > > release process will be similar but different. I think maybe, > it's > > >> about > > >> > > > time to start pruning it. It's easier if anyone wants to > reference > > >> the > > >> > > > Lightbend process to read it from the Akka repos or web site. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > It's a separate discussion but I'd prefer to see the Apache > Pekko > > >> release > > >> > > > docs end up on cwiki.apache.org as opposed to in the Github > > repos. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Anyone with any opinions about this? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > > > >> > Matthew de Detrich > > >> > > > >> > *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > > >> > > > >> > Immanuelkirchstraße 26, 10405 Berlin > > >> > > > >> > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > > >> > > > >> > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen > > >> > > > >> > *m:* +491603708037 > > >> > > > >> > *w:* aiven.io *e:* [email protected] > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Matthew de Detrich > > > > > > *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > > > > > > Immanuelkirchstraße 26, 10405 Berlin > > > > > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > > > > > > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen > > > > > > *m:* +491603708037 > > > > > > *w:* aiven.io *e:* [email protected] > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Matthew de Detrich > > > > *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > > > > Immanuelkirchstraße 26, 10405 Berlin > > > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B > > > > Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen > > > > *m:* +491603708037 > > > > *w:* aiven.io *e:* [email protected] > > > -- Matthew de Detrich *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* Immanuelkirchstraße 26, 10405 Berlin Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen *m:* +491603708037 *w:* aiven.io *e:* [email protected]
