> (i.e. first release after a hard work)

This is meant to say "(i.e. first release after a hard fork)"

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 12:53 PM Matthew Benedict de Detrich <
[email protected]> wrote:

> > I think that it is time to start to take a hard look at a release
> candidate.  I do not expect the release candidate to succeed, however,
> there is a lot to be learned in the failure.
>
> Our current strategy is to release a MILESTONE which should hopefully
> happen this week. This is because doing a RC is more problematic due to how
> difficult it is to build Pekko outside of CI (with a MILESTONE we can
> release it under Apache Snapshots Repo)
>
> > I think we should start by determining if there are items that are not
> required for the release and items that are missing.  I am opening two
> issues today that I will add to the milestone.  They are the addition of
> the LICENSE and NOTICE files to the snapshots, under the assumption that
> doing so will also add them to the release.
>
> FYI this has already been done for all Pekko modules, the core logic of
> doing so is abstracted in
> https://github.com/mdedetrich/sbt-apache-sonatype. Every single Pekko
> repo contains the relevant LICENSE, NOTICE and DISCLAIMER files both in the
> source dist package and also in the maven jar convenience package
>
> > 1. do not work on a change without a ticket.
>
> This can be considered somewhat unnecessary with regards to how github
> works, more specifically a PR in github **is a ticket**  and since we use
> github for both pull requests and tickets this distinction can be
> considered somewhat arbitrary.
>
> On a related note, the reason why people worked on features without
> creating issues first is simply due to velocity. If we had to go through a
> formal process we would have achieved a fraction of what we have done
> currently. I would suggest the most appropriate time to introduce new
> process would be after the first release, not now. Its already been both
> communicated and demonstrated multiple times that the current development
> process of Pekko is highly tailored to the unique scenario we are in (i.e.
> first release after a hard work) and that it does need to change, but doing
> so now in my opinion would introduce a real risk of slowing things down
> which is the exact opposite of what we want to do now.
>
> > 2. make sure the ticket is associated with the milestone.
>
> This is already being done, at least for tickets/pull requests that are
> relevant to a milestone. See https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects/ and
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/milestones
>
> >   3. when you are working on a ticket, assign it to yourself.  If you can
> not assign it to yourself, post a note on the dev mailing list with a
> subject prefix of [ACCESS] noting the ticket that you do not have access to
> and then add a comment to the ticket indicating that you are working on it.
>
> Github doesn't allow you to assign tickets if you are not a maintainer
> (which for Apache projects means comitter). I have noted in the past that
> we need to be a lot better about assigning in general (this has been noted
> multiple times) however I will raise the some points raised in response to
> point number 1 here.
>
> >   4. any change that is not a simple break/fix should be discussed in the
> dev mail list with the subject prefix of [DISUCSS].
>
> What is the mentality behind this? I strongly disagree with making such a
> rule, we shouldn't be preventing people from making contributions even if
> they are not focused on the current milestone/release candidate. I don't
> have any issue in freezing the repository during a release process but this
> is one step too far. Its especially damaging in the case of Pekko because
> since we have made an agreement that version 1.0.x doesn't introduce new
> features, people have been making pull requests for new features over time
> with the expectation they will get merged later. Such a rule send a very
> negative signal to potential contributors.
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 12:38 PM Claude Warren, Jr
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>> I think that it is time to start to take a hard look at a release
>> candidate.  I do not expect the release candidate to succeed, however,
>> there is a lot to be learned in the failure.
>>
>> There is a milestone [1] currently open.  Let's take that and work toward
>> the release candidate.
>>
>> I think we should start by determining if there are items that are not
>> required for the release and items that are missing.  I am opening two
>> issues today that I will add to the milestone.  They are the addition of
>> the LICENSE and NOTICE files to the snapshots, under the assumption that
>> doing so will also add them to the release.  Let's clean the list and then
>> concentrate on only those items that will get us to RC1.  So let's hold a
>> vote on the items in the current milestone and see if they all need to be
>> in release 1.0
>>
>> In this process we will need to ensure that everyone is communicating what
>> they are doing.  So, I think we should do the following:
>>   1. do not work on a change without a ticket.
>>   2. make sure the ticket is associated with the milestone.
>>   3. when you are working on a ticket, assign it to yourself.  If you can
>> not assign it to yourself, post a note on the dev mailing list with a
>> subject prefix of [ACCESS] noting the ticket that you do not have access
>> to
>> and then add a comment to the ticket indicating that you are working on
>> it.
>>   4. any change that is not a simple break/fix should be discussed in the
>> dev mail list with the subject prefix of [DISUCSS].
>>
>> We should also be looking on the dev list for offers of assistance and
>> point them to the milestone first.  We need to develop standard operating
>> procedures that are welcoming to new contributors.
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-pekko/milestone/1
>>
>
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