Hi,

Note a vote is not needed as it is by lazy consensus.

Justin

> On 19 Jul 2023, at 9:27 pm, Matthew de Detrich 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Just to provide some additional context as to why there is pushback on this
> right now, it's not just technical reasons
> (i.e. too much code/not enough capacity) but also legal ones. In order for
> us to accept code,
> not only do we need an SGA[1] plus an ICLA/CCLA[2] from the author but also
> an
> IP clearance form[3] which needs to be accepted with a formal vote. When
> merging pekko-http-cors into pekko-http
> we didn't know about the IP clearance form, the consequences of which we
> have to deal with now when trying to
> release pekko-http.
> 
> [1] https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html#grants
> [2] https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html#clas
> [3] https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 7:40 AM Claude Warren, Jr
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> My take on this....
>> 
>> I like the recognition that we need to grow the community, and I like the
>> realization that we can not support infinite source code with a volunteer
>> community that does not grow.  I think there are some good kernels of ideas
>> in this discussion.  In general Pekko could support external development
>> that may or may not become part of core by providing a page that links to
>> projects that are extending Pekko but not part of Pekko core.   In this
>> case the code mongo persistence library would be mentioned on that page.
>> This gives external projects a chance to develop a supporting community and
>> show that there is demand for the component.  I also think there is an
>> opportunity here to invite the mongo persistence developer to come help get
>> the rest of the modules up to snuff and out the door as released so we can
>> take the time to consider the mongo persistence module properly.  So in
>> short, if someone comes with a package give them an opportunity to show
>> they are committed to Pekko and give them a place to show that there is a
>> community behind their contribution.
>> 
>> I have to agree with earlier writers in this thread that there is just not
>> the band width to take on another module at this point in the Pekko
>> development. cycle.
>> 
>> I also wonder if we should take some sort of poll or have some metric to
>> determine which of the remaining modules has the most demand/support.  In
>> my opinion if an existing module (pekko-foo) has lower demand than the
>> demand for mongo-persistence then I think mongo-persistence should come in
>> before pekko-foo.  This paragraph all hypothetical because we don't have a
>> measure of demand/support (that I know of).
>> 
>> So in short, encourage the mongo-persistence developer to join the work to
>> get core out while evaluating whether there is enough demand/support for
>> mongo-persistence to include it.
>> 
>> Claude
>> 
> 
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