On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Sander van Zoest wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
>
> > > > http://perl.apache.org is self explaining.
> > > > http://archive.covalent.net/perl is misleading
> > > > http://archive.covalent.net/mod_perl is self explaining
> > > well. is http://mail-archives.apache.org/perl self-explaining to you?
> > Yup, very :)
>
> I really don't see much of a difference myself. That simply ties mod_perl
> to apache. I really do not see a reason for the mod_perl project to grow
> that it will start supporting other webserver APIs and frameworks.
it seems that I don't get my message thru, look at this URL:
http://archive.covalent.net/perl
How can you understand from it that it's talking about mod_perl? When you
say explicitly mod_perl it's clear, when you say perl.apache it's less
clear but still OK. Hope that this clears the idea behind my proposition.
> Granted, it shouldn't be confused with simply perl, but if this evolves
> as much as the xml and java projects have then I can totally see perl
> projects under the ASF umbrella that do not anything to with mod_perl.
>
> I would think you want to make the mailing lists something like:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> archive.covalent.net/perl/advocacy/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> archive.covalent.net/perl/modperl-user/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> archive.covalent.net/perl/modperl-dev/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> archive.covalent.net/perl/modperl-cvs/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> archive.covalent.net/perl/embperl-user/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> archive.covalent.net/perl/embperl-dev/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> archive.covalent.net/perl/embperl-cvs/
>
> potentially you might want to move the [EMAIL PROTECTED] under
> the perl embrella. It is kinda hard to say.
>
> Do you kinda get where I am going with this?
I'm kinda get it :) I hope that you kinda understand that there is an
existing structure, and we should try to comply with it, since people
don't like changes in something that they are used to and it works for
them. It's a fact on the mod_perl list, it's not me rumbling about
phylosophy :)
> > > Well, I am more talking about the actual mailing list itself. Granted I
> > > can do almost anything on my end, but since the modperl website is at
> > > http://perl.apache.org/ , I would think moving the mailing list to
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] would make a lot of sense from an organizational
> > > perspective.
> > You are definitely right, but given the fact that things are hardly
> > maintained on the perl.apache.org, if someone will not take take an
> > ownership of this task, once something goes wrong it'll stay broken for
> > years. In addition the search is very essential.
>
> I thought you said that you were maintaining the perl.apache.org pages?
> What about if you set up a [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> and such. I am sure there are some web designers/developers that would
> be interested in helping out.
Well, there are a few people, each maintaining a few pages. There are two
designs of the new look and feel which seem to hold off each other which
leads to a zero new designs, so I don't know. BTW,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] exists for a long time (it's an alias of
modperl-cvs), still it didn't do much difference for the look and feel of
the site, since 99.9 of lurkers on this list are either not designers or
don't care about what they see.
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