Stas Bekman wrote:
You probably have noticed that almost every time there is a bug report from a person who is doing this for the first time, we need to tell them: go to
http://perl.apache.org/bugs and follow the guidelines for a proper bug-report. I was thinking how can we save this wasteful cycle. For example we could adjust the failure message of 'make test' (in both mp1 and mp2) to provide that information.
sure. I had a similar thought this afternoon, which is why I pinged the pmc wondering where the list footers for modperl@ got off to...
Now I connect it ;) I've thought of this while reading an interview with Linus: http://www.oetrends.com/news.php?action=view_record&idnum=277 Q: What do you use for bug reporting?
Certainly it's going to be hard with post-install problems. But we could finish the 'make install' target with a banner explaining what to do in the case of the post-install errors. Certainly this would be missed by those who install RPMs and similar prepackaged distros (though they could be changed to print a notice as well), but many install from source so that would help a lot I think.
Something as simple and outstanding as:
**************************************************** * * * Got a problem? See http://perl.apache.org/bugs/ * * * ****************************************************
if we want to do that, some kind of bounding box for the information we already put out after 'make install' might be a good idea as well - the Apache2 stuff kinda gets hidden at the end of the output and doesn't stand out all that much.
sure, I've wanted this to happen long long time ago.
Actually it'd be a cool idea to have this feature in MakeMaker, so one just needs to supply a text to print post 'make install'.
we also might want to consider a nice completion banner of some sort.
what do you mean? Like I did above? Of course...
I'm kinda partial to a format similar to one at the end of an apache-1.3 install myself :)
We should probably use a distinct format if possible. Personally I'm sort of so used to httpd's box, I always ignore it. So if they add some important notice in there I won't notice. So may be we should use a random border char...
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