On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Perrin Harkins wrote:

 I have some anecdotal evidence of support.  I told a couple of my
 co-workers about the PMC decision to change to Apache2.  Their reactions
 ranged from "Thank god" to "It's the only sane choice."  I was actually
 surprised that everyone was so in favor of changing the name.

I dont know if this will comfort stas is any way, but I am looking forward 
to this change and it has nothing to do with version numbers nor CPAN.  

When I see 'use Apache2', i dont see a version number.  I completely 
concur with Stas that tieing it to a version number is a bad idea.  But i 
dont care whether it is Apache2 or ApacheBlue or ApacheNextGen, so long as 
it is different from mp1 the namespace.  

I could care less if this fixes CPAN issues or not.  I agree with stas 
(not to put words into your mouth... i think i am accurrately summarizing) 
that making a major API change to accommodate CPAN is a bad idea.  But my 
user experience and happiness over the namespace change has nothing to do 
with cpan.  I think there needs to be a major API change because the 
concept of considering mp2 to be mp1 with more stuff added, from actually 
using the two, is a flawed concept that was not fully appreciated until 
the path was trodden.  No one is at fault... it just had to be explored 
in the real world before the correct path became 'clear' (ha).  We have 
two different animals entirely here and they need to cut the cords that  
tie them together, such as namespace.  

mp1 and mp2 are sufficiently different (and incompatible) that, from my 
usage of them, they should be considered different products and hence have 
different names.  I find it very misleading and confusing to think of mp2 
as being version 2 of mod_perl.  They are entirely different animals.  

So as a regular chump user and long time lurker, I think even if I agree 
100pct with most of the points Stas raises (which i do), and discount CPAN 
and other motivations entirely, there STILL remains compelling reason to 
change the namespace. 

Basically I am advocating zero guarantee of compatibility between mp1 and 
mp2, and the simplicity that it will bring.  As a long time reader, I read 
post after post trying to tapdance on eggshells to keep mp1 and mp2 
playing nice together and the developer in me doesnt see a point to it.  

Rename them mod_perl_apple and mod_perl_orange and consider em both 
version 1.0 of unrelated products that happen to solve the same problems 
[not literally of course, just trying to illustrate my concept]

 - Perrin
 
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gedanken

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