If we waited for the Hadoop 3.4.2 release, we should use it :
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-7696

I'm gonna run an OWASP scan to see if there are any easily fixed CVEs.

Istvan

On Fri, Sep 5, 2025 at 6:08 AM Viraj Jasani <[email protected]> wrote:

> Unless there are any blockers, planning to prepare RC sometime next week.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 6:30 PM Viraj Jasani <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hadoop release is done.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2025 at 9:40 PM Istvan Toth <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Perhaps consider waiting for Hadoop 3.4.2.
> >> It's already in the RC phase.
> >> Stoty
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 7:22 AM Viraj Jasani <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > We are getting closer. I am planning to get in a couple of Jiras
> >> (Segment
> >> > scan, thread pool tunings for uncovered index and view creation perf
> >> > improvements) and we should be hopefully ready to start 5.3.0 release
> >> next
> >> > week.
> >> >
> >> > Please let me know if you have any critical changes to incorporate
> into
> >> > 5.3.0 release.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 11:28 PM Istvan Toth
> <[email protected]
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Thank you Viraj.
> >> > >
> >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-7668 is for the 2.6.3
> >> > > update.
> >> > > I have not yet committed that, because of the test hangs with 2.6.
> >> > (though
> >> > > I'm pretty sure that those are not related to the 2.6.3 update)
> >> > > I know you are investigating this.
> >> > >
> >> > > Just opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-7681 for
> >> the
> >> > > 2.5.12 update.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm not sure about updating the default.
> >> > > My default stance is to use the current HBase "stable" release line,
> >> > which
> >> > > is 2.5.
> >> > > On the other hand, it is expected that HBase will change the stable
> to
> >> > 2.6
> >> > > in the not too distant future,
> >> > > and releasing 5.3 with the 2.6 default will avoid having to change
> the
> >> > > default in a patch release.
> >> > >
> >> > > I don't have a strong opinion either way.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 8:24 AM Viraj Jasani <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > We have completed all the work mentioned on this thread, but
> please
> >> > > remind
> >> > > > me if I am missing something. We also had tons of improvements,
> >> > features
> >> > > > and fixes done for 5.3.0 release.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We are almost there to start 5.3.0 release. Given that we have had
> >> > recent
> >> > > > HBase releases on 2.5 and 2.6 release lines, would someone like to
> >> > > > volunteer to upgrade the versions in Phoenix master branch?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We can also use 2.6 profile by default.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 11:49 PM Istvan Toth
> >> > <[email protected]
> >> > > >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I'll start the thread, Viraj.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 4:21 AM Viraj Jasani <
> [email protected]>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > I think we can remove hbase 2.4 profile and compat module for
> >> 5.3.0
> >> > > > > > release.
> >> > > > > > Any volunteers to start separate thread to get consensus and
> >> work
> >> > on
> >> > > > > > removing the profile?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 3:11 PM Viraj Jasani <
> >> [email protected]>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Hbase 2.4.x has been EOL for some time, we could drop
> >> support
> >> > for
> >> > > > it
> >> > > > > in
> >> > > > > > > 5.3.
> >> > > > > > > Sure, no strong opinion either way. We could also keep it as
> >> the
> >> > > last
> >> > > > > > > release, or just remove it now.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > I agree, but both the Spotless reformat and the HBase 3.0
> >> > > > pre-patches
> >> > > > > > are
> >> > > > > > > > ready,
> >> > > > > > > > and could be merged within a week, so I don't see this as
> >> > > blocking,
> >> > > > > > > rather
> >> > > > > > > > as finishing
> >> > > > > > > > projects that have been languishing for 6+ months.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > That's a reasonable point, however I am mostly worried about
> >> the
> >> > > > amount
> >> > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > > code changes and the num of features that we have for 5.3.0.
> >> > > > > Backtracking
> >> > > > > > > the change history, keeping track with 5.2 for backward
> >> > > compatibility
> >> > > > > etc
> >> > > > > > > might become painful.
> >> > > > > > > I still think we should wait for both HBase 3.0 support and
> >> > > spotless
> >> > > > > > > format changes for master branch only and not include 5.3.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Let's hear from others also before we make the final
> >> decision? :)
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 10:37 PM Istvan Toth
> >> > > > > <[email protected]
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> We should also consider HBase 2.x version support for 5.3.
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> Hbase 2.4.x has been EOL for some time, we could drop
> support
> >> > for
> >> > > it
> >> > > > > in
> >> > > > > > >> 5.3.
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 7:32 AM Istvan Toth <
> >> [email protected]
> >> > >
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > Given that HBase 3.0.0 is not released yet, only beta-1
> is
> >> > > > released
> >> > > > > so
> >> > > > > > >> far,
> >> > > > > > >> >> I believe we should not block Phoenix 5.3.0 for this.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > I agree, but both the Spotless reformat and the HBase 3.0
> >> > > > > pre-patches
> >> > > > > > >> are
> >> > > > > > >> > ready,
> >> > > > > > >> > and could be merged within a week, so I don't see this as
> >> > > > blocking,
> >> > > > > > >> rather
> >> > > > > > >> > as finishing
> >> > > > > > >> > projects that have been languishing for 6+ months.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> Ideally, we would like Phoenix 6.0.0 major release with
> >> HBase
> >> > > > 3.0.0
> >> > > > > > >> >> release
> >> > > > > > >> >> rather than Phoenix 5.4.0. This is what we have followed
> >> for
> >> > > > HBase
> >> > > > > 2
> >> > > > > > >> >> release as well. WDYT?
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > I'm neutral on what we call the next release. 6.0.0 may
> be
> >> > > better
> >> > > > > for
> >> > > > > > >> > marketing.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > The important difference between the  HBase 1->2 and 2->3
> >> > > > transition
> >> > > > > > is
> >> > > > > > >> > that HBase 3 only breaks
> >> > > > > > >> > API compatibility WRT protobuf 2.5.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > While it was not feasible to support HBase 1.x and 2.x
> from
> >> > the
> >> > > > same
> >> > > > > > >> > Phoenix branch,
> >> > > > > > >> > it is perfectly feasible (if a bit awkward) to support
> >> HBase
> >> > 2.x
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > > > 3.x
> >> > > > > > >> > from the same branch,
> >> > > > > > >> > in fact my WIP branch does just that.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > Because of this, we can avoid having to maintain separate
> >> > > branches
> >> > > > > for
> >> > > > > > >> > HBase 2.x and 3.x, and treat 3.0
> >> > > > > > >> > just as we do treat a new 2.x release, adding support for
> >> it
> >> > > > without
> >> > > > > > >> > breaking  the existing 2.x releases.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > The current patches are fully compatible with HBase 2.x,
> >> they
> >> > > are
> >> > > > > just
> >> > > > > > >> > replacing HBase 1.x APIs
> >> > > > > > >> > that have slipped by the previous API migration attempts.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > For now,
> >> > > > > > >> >> keeping track of dev changes among 5.x branches would be
> >> > really
> >> > > > > > helpful
> >> > > > > > >> >> because we have tons of features for 5.3 release, I wish
> >> we
> >> > > could
> >> > > > > > have
> >> > > > > > >> >> done
> >> > > > > > >> >> 6.0.0 right away but let's wait for HBase 3.0.0 for it
> at
> >> > > least.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > Backports are also my main concern.
> >> > > > > > >> > Actually, that's why I'm pushing for the spotless
> reformat
> >> > now.
> >> > > > > > >> > If we do it now, then master and 5.3 won't differ, and we
> >> can
> >> > > > follow
> >> > > > > > up
> >> > > > > > >> > with the same reformat for 5.2 and even 5.1.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > I'm aware that this will be an issue when backporting to
> >> > > > > > >> > private/downstream branches, but
> >> > > > > > >> > that will be true whenever we do the reformat, and we
> need
> >> to
> >> > > rip
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > >> > band-aid off at some point.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > The same is true for the pre HBase 3.0 patches, if we
> merge
> >> > them
> >> > > > > now,
> >> > > > > > >> then
> >> > > > > > >> > at least this will be both in
> >> > > > > > >> > master and 5.3, and is one less thing to get in the way
> >> when
> >> > > > > > >> backporting.
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > Istvan
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 8:39 PM Viraj Jasani <
> >> > > [email protected]>
> >> > > > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> Thanks for bringing this to the attention, Istvan!
> >> > > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > >> >> Given that HBase 3.0.0 is not released yet, only beta-1
> is
> >> > > > released
> >> > > > > > so
> >> > > > > > >> >> far,
> >> > > > > > >> >> I believe we should not block Phoenix 5.3.0 for this.
> >> > > > > > >> >> Even if HBase 3.0.0 gets released soon, I still believe
> it
> >> > > makes
> >> > > > > more
> >> > > > > > >> >> sense
> >> > > > > > >> >> to have the above PRs merged after cutting 5.3 branch.
> >> > > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > >> >> A couple of proposals:
> >> > > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > >> >>    - Once the 5.3 branch is created from master, we
> should
> >> > also
> >> > > > > > create
> >> > > > > > >> >>    branch-5 or 5.x as the top level release branch for
> 5.x
> >> > > > > releases.
> >> > > > > > >> >>    - master branch should start with the 6.0.0 dev
> >> version.
> >> > > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > >> >> Ideally, we would like Phoenix 6.0.0 major release with
> >> HBase
> >> > > > 3.0.0
> >> > > > > > >> >> release
> >> > > > > > >> >> rather than Phoenix 5.4.0. This is what we have followed
> >> for
> >> > > > HBase
> >> > > > > 2
> >> > > > > > >> >> release as well. WDYT?
> >> > > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > >> >> > The other major outstanding issue is the spotless
> >> reformat.
> >> > > > > > >> >> I think we should do that before branching, otherwise
> it's
> >> > > just a
> >> > > > > lot
> >> > > > > > >> of
> >> > > > > > >> >> extra work to do that twice.
> >> > > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > >> >> The spotless work also would benefit well for 6.0.0
> >> release?
> >> > > For
> >> > > > > now,
> >> > > > > > >> >> keeping track of dev changes among 5.x branches would be
> >> > really
> >> > > > > > helpful
> >> > > > > > >> >> because we have tons of features for 5.3 release, I wish
> >> we
> >> > > could
> >> > > > > > have
> >> > > > > > >> >> done
> >> > > > > > >> >> 6.0.0 right away but let's wait for HBase 3.0.0 for it
> at
> >> > > least.
> >> > > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > >> >> I am planning to cut 5.3 branch soon after PHOENIX-7587
> >> > > > > > >> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-7587>
> and
> >> > > > > > PHOENIX-7573
> >> > > > > > >> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PHOENIX-7573>
> are
> >> > > merged,
> >> > > > > > >> >> hopefully
> >> > > > > > >> >> within a week.
> >> > > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > >> >> On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 1:01 AM Istvan Toth
> >> > > > > > <[email protected]
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > >> >> > The big feature I'm tracking is HBase 3.0 support.
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > I'm fine with releasing 5.3.0 before HBase 3.0 is out,
> >> but
> >> > > then
> >> > > > > we
> >> > > > > > >> >> should
> >> > > > > > >> >> > be prepared to either add HBase 3 support in a
> >> > > > > > >> >> > patch release, or release 5.4.0 relatively quickly
> after
> >> > 3.0.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > (Summer/Autumn-ish)
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > There are still three HBase 3.0 preparation patches by
> >> me
> >> > and
> >> > > > > > Villo,
> >> > > > > > >> >> which
> >> > > > > > >> >> > IMO should be in 5.3.0, otherwise backports will
> >> > > > > > >> >> > be harder than they should be. These have been waiting
> >> for
> >> > > > review
> >> > > > > > for
> >> > > > > > >> >> some
> >> > > > > > >> >> > months, If I can't find anyone to review them,
> >> > > > > > >> >> > then I will self-review, as technically their current
> >> > > iteration
> >> > > > > was
> >> > > > > > >> >> already
> >> > > > > > >> >> > rebased/re-worked by Villo.
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > https://github.com/apache/phoenix/pull/2035
> >> > > > > > >> >> > https://github.com/apache/phoenix/pull/2036
> >> > > > > > >> >> > https://github.com/apache/phoenix/pull/2038
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > The other major outstanding issue is the spotless
> >> reformat.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > I think we should do that before branching, otherwise
> >> it's
> >> > > > just a
> >> > > > > > >> lot of
> >> > > > > > >> >> > extra work to do that twice.
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > (The spotless reformat, and the big outstanding HBase
> >> 3.0
> >> > > > > > preparation
> >> > > > > > >> >> > patches are another problem, as
> >> > > > > > >> >> > it would be a lot of work to rebase them after the
> >> > reformat)
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > Istvan
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 2:06 AM Viraj Jasani <
> >> > > > [email protected]
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > Hi,
> >> > > > > > >> >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > I am looking forward to creating the 5.3 branch from
> >> the
> >> > > > master
> >> > > > > > >> branch
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > sometime next week.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > We have many large changes in the master branch.
> While
> >> > > > majority
> >> > > > > > >> >> features
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > are hidden behind flags, it is important to ensure
> we
> >> > have
> >> > > a
> >> > > > > > smooth
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > release.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > Please discuss here if there are any big changes you
> >> are
> >> > > > > planning
> >> > > > > > >> to
> >> > > > > > >> >> > > include with the 5.3.0 release.
> >> > > > > > >> >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >> > --
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