On 07/10/16 14:33, Joe Witt wrote: > We should avoid the debate about how likely the loss is but we should > also point out how dubious this guidance appears to be in other > communities that graduated. Nah, let's not debate that either. ;-) > > Pirk is a pretty specialized and awesome concept. Whether the core > committer base expands or not does remain to be seen. As a mentor > though what I'm watching above all right now is that the community is > doing those things consistently which enable and allow such growth - > demonstrating the apache way.
... and in case it wasn't clear, I think Pirk is doing a great job at that! Regards, Tim > On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Tim Ellison <t.p.elli...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 07/10/16 12:59, Ellison Anne Williams wrote: >>> Good points. From a mentor perspective, what would you consider to be >>> diverse enough community involvement for the project to be self-sustaining? >> >> The goal is to ensure that if one or two existing people / companies >> decide (for whatever reason) that they no longer want to participate in >> Pirk, the community will be able to continue. >> >> Now we don't need to get into a debate about how likely that loss is for >> Pirk, but as a general rule the guidance is that having three distinct >> 'entities' as regular committers would be a minimum. >> >> Of course, the more the better. >> >> Take a look here for a good overview >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community >> >> Regards, >> Tim >> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:56 AM, Tim Ellison <t.p.elli...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 05/10/16 13:50, Ellison Anne Williams wrote: >>>>> It appears that podling reports have been moved to quarterly instead of >>>>> monthly - looks like we don't have to submit a report until December. >>>>> >>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt >>>>> >>>>> (Thanks to Suneel for the info!) >>>> >>>> Sure, though I still think it is worth us reflecting on progress more >>>> frequently. I have no fear of the code (IP) cleanliness, procedures, or >>>> personalities involved in Pirk. I do worry a bit about whether Pirk >>>> will be self-sustaining in terms of diverse community involvement. >>>> >>>> It is still early days, and there has been good progress on developer >>>> and user documentation and guidance. Hopefully we can continue in that >>>> vein, and the project will continue to see the benefits. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 4:14 AM, Tim Ellison <t.p.elli...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 01/10/16 01:14, Ellison Anne Williams wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please find the draft podling report for October below -- please let me >>>>>>> know if you have any comments/suggestions/questions. I will post it to >>>>>> the >>>>>>> incubator wiki when everyone is happy with it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ellison Anne >>>>>> >>>>>> FYI the layout got messed up on my client, so I hit return a few times >>>>>> to reformat the text below... >>>>>> >>>>>>> PirkPirk is a framework for scalable Private Information Retrieval >>>>>>> (PIR). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pirk has been incubating since 2016-06-17. The initial code for >>>>>>> Pirk was granted on 2016-07-11. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Grow the community to establish diversity of background and >>>> expertise. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Establish a formal release process and schedule, allowing for >>>>>>> dependable release cycles in a manner consistent with the Apache >>>>>>> development process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Add to and improve the Pirk user documentation and examples both on >>>>>>> the website and in the code base. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to >>>>>>> be aware of? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> None. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How has the community developed since the last report? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have attracted a couple of new contributors since the last report. >>>>>>> The mailing list activity, pull requests, and page views to the Apache >>>>>>> Pirk website (via Google Analytics) have also increased since the last >>>>>>> report. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How has the project developed since the last report? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The project is in the process of completing it's second release, >>>>>>> 0.2.0-incubating. The project has also undertaken a refactor of some of >>>>>>> the packages and drivers and added additional user/developer >>>>>>> documentation on the website. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date of last release: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> August 29, 2016 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When were the last committers or PMC members elected? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pirk elected two new committers (Tim Ellison and Suneel Marthi, both >>>>>>> mentors) on August 18, 2016. >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 from me. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think we are well on the the way to achieving goal two, the repeatable >>>>>> release process/schedule, and as you have written, it is now a case of >>>>>> focusing on user and developer community to ensure the project is >>>>>> sustainable in the long run. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>
