On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Greg Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> Does anyone have any suggestions on where a "Pivot cookbook" site might be
> hosted? The wiki is a possibility, as is a Google Code project. What are some
> other options? Also, is "cookbook" the right term? Might something else be
> better?

I tend to use github for my current non-Apache open source endeavors.
sf.net used to be rather bad but lately I haven't heard that many
issues with its services.

> Another thing I have been thinking about is how to lower the barrier to
> participation in the Pivot community. Currently, in order to interact with
> other Pivot developers, you need to join a mailing list. It's not hard, but
> it's not as easy as posting to a Google Group, for example. I know the
> mailing lists are the preferred way to communicate about Apache projects,

It's the only official way. If it didn't happen on the list, it didn't
happen. This
doesn't concern user questions but any decision needs to be taken on the
dev@ list (or private@ list if it needs to be private).

> but I personally don't see the harm in adding another communication
> vehicle if it will help move the project forward.

Fragmentation of an already small community is bad IMO. How much time
are you willing to invest in Pivot? Would you like to spend your time monitoring
several forums or do you want to develop actual code? If you spread out your
users across several forums you limit their chances of helping each other,
ensuring that you will be responsible for helping each individual.
Having a single
source for user help has been one of the greatest catalysts for the Wicket
community. After a couple of years we now have users helping  users without
the need of core developers (thus freeing us to actually code).

Also note that having *and* a forum *and* a user list will utterly confuse your
users. They will double post, requiring you to answer on both the list and the
forum, or leave one of the questions unanswered, giving people monitoring just
that one platform a bad taste (see nobody answers questions here).

If you want to present your users a forum, just use nabble.com (or
gmane) and let them
present a forum view on top of the Apache lists.

Martijn

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