I agree that we should start the release train (
Perhaps we can tie up some loose ends this weekend.

Chris


Am 03.05.19, 15:31 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" <[email protected]>:

    Hi all,
    
    Just wanted to bump up this old thread [1] where we discussed about the 
release strategy.
    We concluded that it would not be a good idea to have a higher release 
frequency but after graduation (to keep the pressure low on the IPMC).
    
    Thus, I want to continue the discussion.
    As we are pretty heavy users of PLC4X I would like to see regular releases 
with a  frequency of 1 – 2 months (at least for now, where a lot happens).
    
    What are others opinions and thoughts?
    
    Julian
    
    On 2019/03/10 18:07:46, Julian Feinauer 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > Oh and what about some opc ua support for the 0.4.0 release (looking 
towards Mathias and Tim....)?>
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    >
    >
    > :)>
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    >
    >
    > Julian>
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    >
    >
    > Von meinem Mobiltelefon gesendet>
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    >
    >
    > -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------->
    >
    > Betreff: AW: [DISCUSS] Release Strategy for future releases>
    >
    > Von: Julian Feinauer>
    >
    > An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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    > Cc:>
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    >
    >
    > Hi Tim,>
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    >
    >
    > Sounds good to extend the group of release managers.>
    >
    > I think there is already a release prepared in Jira but I agree to polish 
the Jira issues a bit and assign the release field so that we have an idea what 
we want to have in there upfront.>
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    >
    >
    > Julian>
    >
    >
    >
    > Von meinem Mobiltelefon gesendet>
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    >
    >
    >
    >
    > -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------->
    >
    > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Release Strategy for future releases>
    >
    > Von: Tim Mitsch>
    >
    > An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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    > Cc:>
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    >
    > Hello everybody,>
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    >
    >
    > I'll agree with Chris as well as with Julian ... think lots of people are 
under heavy load in incubator so high release frequency won't be the best 
solution as long as we are an incubating project.>
    >
    > On the other hand we should take care about not releasing in too less 
frequency to make interested people more interested in what we're doing and 
make feature available as early as possible.>
    >
    > As already said ... I think we should create a more or less regular 
release-interval when we are graduated.>
    >
    >
    >
    > As I had a look on Julian doing 0.3.1 release procedure I think I can do 
the RM for next release which I think will be 0.4.0 (maybe end of April or 
beginning of may).>
    >
    > If there is nothing against it I'll start to prepare a feature list and 
opening a new topic on mailing-list for that as well as creating the regarding 
jira-tickets.>
    >
    >
    >
    > Best>
    >
    > Tim>
    >
    >
    >
    > Am 06.03.19, 21:55 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:>
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    >
    >
    >     Hey Otto,>
    >
    >
    >
    >     fair point. I think we should to decide a new release strategy. But 
if we consider to keep it as it is now we should not have to vote.>
    >
    >
    >
    >     Or?>
    >
    >
    >
    >     Julian>
    >
    >
    >
    >     Von meinem Mobiltelefon gesendet>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------->
    >
    >     Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Release Strategy for future releases>
    >
    >     Von: Otto Fowler>
    >
    >     An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>,Christofer Dutz>
    >
    >     Cc:>
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    >
    >     Shouldn’t you call an official vote for something like this?>
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    >     On March 6, 2019 at 15:29:18, Christofer Dutz 
([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>)>
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    >     wrote:>
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    >
    >
    >     Big +1 for that ;-)>
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    >
    >
    >     Chris>
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    >
    >     Am 06.03.19, 21:26 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:>
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    >
    >     Hi Chris,>
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    >
    >
    >     No offense. I agree that we should not stress those lovely people 
more than>
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    >     necessary.>
    >
    >     So we keep our aim on 0.4 (with whatever accumulates till then) for 
now and>
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    >     start regular releases when graduated.>
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    >
    >
    >     Is this a plan?>
    >
    >
    >
    >     Julian>
    >
    >
    >
    >     Von meinem Mobiltelefon gesendet>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------->
    >
    >     Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Release Strategy for future releases>
    >
    >     Von: Christofer Dutz>
    >
    >     An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
    >
    >     Cc:>
    >
    >
    >
    >     Hi Julian,>
    >
    >
    >
    >     I would +1 this, but please have one thing in Mind ... every release 
we do>
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    >     requires us to check it (of course) ... but also we have to have 
people in>
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    >     the Incubator also validate these releases.>
    >
    >     Some people there are under heavy load and I would not like to 
increase>
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    >     this load too much.>
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    >
    >
    >     But how about starting with that as soon as we have left the 
incubator? I>
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    >     would really like that.>
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    >
    >
    >     Chris>
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    >
    >
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    >
    >     Am 06.03.19, 09:15 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:>
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    >
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    >
    >
    >     Hi all,>
    >
    >
    >
    >     perhaps some may find this email too early (as we are still in the 
process>
    >
    >     of doing a Release) but I want to ask / discuss about how we plan to 
do>
    >
    >     releases in the future.>
    >
    >     Up till now, they were were infrequent due to the early stage of the>
    >
    >     project but now I think we have stabilized well, we have stable APIs 
and>
    >
    >     mostly new features coming in.>
    >
    >     One problem we had most of the time was, that we had to work on 
“forked>
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    >     releases” because the last official release lacked (newer) features 
we>
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    >     needed.>
    >
    >     Thus, I suggest that we start to release more often or even on a 
regular>
    >
    >     schedule (like e.g. Calcite does it) to ship the new features soon.>
    >
    >     Also this could help us, to teach more people how to release / rm.>
    >
    >
    >
    >     As we are mostly shipping features, there’s nothing speaking against 
doing>
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    >     minor (i.e. compatible) releases which makes it really easy for users 
to>
    >
    >     update.>
    >
    >     Perhaps, we could aim for monthly releases (if we have things to 
release)>
    >
    >     and already start the setup for that. I am really eager to get the 
PLC4X-88>
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    >     (Triggered Scraper) merged and then shipped!>
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    >     Next would then be 0.3.2 in early April.>
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    >
    >
    >     What do you think of that concrete and more general?>
    >
    >
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    >     Julian>
    >
    >
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    >     PS.: If we move forward with graduation the release process is also>
    >
    >     becoming a bit easier, as there’s only one vote necessary (and no 
longer>
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    >     the second vote from the IPMC)>
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