Sam Ruby wrote:
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:24 PM, David Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 On Apr 17, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:

We have a very high profile and ongoing dispute with another vendor on
similar matters.  If nothing else, it should show that we are very
serious about such things.  In the extreme case, it could very well
mean that we yank some portions of specific products or even entire
projects.
 I'm not sure what you are referring to. Is it Sun Java / Harmony ?

While I was referring to that, I would like to discourage us going off
into a tangent exploring the various ways in which the two cases are
similar or different.  My only point is that we are serious, and we
will not agree to terms that require our users to obtain additional
licenses in order to use our Work.  I can also point at sender-id
where we took a similar stance with sender-id:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/sender-id-position.html


but lets do this in a way that warns users that we're working on the IP question (I cannot tell you how many times I've seen production systems on snapshots of code that I'd never even put a public build out of in places that would REALLY scare you) and then doesn't screw them if we find out that we have a problem. But let's make sure we don't and do due diligence.

 Can you say what you do for IBM?

I work in the Emerging Technologies group, and specialize in matters
relating to the ASF and certain standards including HTML5 and Atom.
Previously I focused on Web Services (I have since reformed), C#, CLI,
and before that ECMAScript (a.k.a. JavaScript).


re:web services...  Hurray!


- Sam Ruby

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