Hi All,

The latest MinIO images work well for Polaris tests and demos.

It might still be worth proactively trying newer S3 implementations like
RustFS and/or SeaweedFS (although I have not personally tried them out with
Polaris yet).

Even though we may prefer Ozone as the main storage in examples when it
supports STS, validating other S3 implementations could be helpful for
Polaris end users.

Also, I expect RustFS to be faster and less cumbersome to set up than
Ozone, which could be an advantage for integration tests in CI.

Cheers,
Dmitri.

On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 6:03 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I know the Ozone community is discussing to have STS full support for 2.2.0
> release.
>
> So, I think it's reasonable to keep minio for now waiting ozone 2.2.0.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 3:59 AM Yong Zheng <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Adnan and JB,
> >
> > I took a closer look at Ozone and it doesn't appear STS is fully
> supported
> > yet for Ozone:
> >
> https://github.com/apache/ozone/blob/master/hadoop-hdds/docs/content/design/ozone-sts.md
> .
> > In this case, do we still wan to cut over the getting start example to
> > Ozone one instead of MinIO?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Yong Zheng
> >
> > On 2026/01/14 23:32:11 Adnan Hemani via dev wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'd hope that we can pivot to Ozone and hide the additional adaptation
> > > behind our setup scripts.
> > >
> > > It's a shame that my fears came true about relying on a provider who is
> > > actively trying to sell the managed version of their product shutting
> > down
> > > their OSS functionalities [1]. Any alternatives we consider, in my
> > opinion,
> > > should take this experience into consideration.
> > >
> > > I'm still not against reverting back to using local FS for the
> Quickstart
> > > experience. If all the alternatives only complicate things for the end
> > > user, then it will be a poor Quickstart experience - and that's much
> > worse
> > > than giving more functionality in Quickstart but users not knowing how
> to
> > > actually use it.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Adnan Hemani
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/2976
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 6:58 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Yes, Ozone supports STS, that's why I mentioned it. It's probably
> close
> > > > enough to minIO (even if some "adaptation" might be required for
> STS).
> > > >
> > > > Just my $0.01
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > JB
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 2:15 AM Yufei Gu <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Agreed with Dmitri that STS is essential in this case, otherwise a
> > local
> > > > > file system will be good enough.
> > > > >
> > > > > AFAIK, Apache Ozone supports STS starting from 2.1.0,
> > > > > https://ozone.apache.org/release/2.1.0/.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yufei
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 4:55 PM Dmitri Bourlatchkov <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi François,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I could not find any mention of STS / AssumeRole in GarageHQ docs
> > > > (really
> > > > > > quick looks), so I assume it does not support STS... Do you know
> > for
> > > > > sure?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > STS is pretty important for ease of use in Polaris getting
> started
> > > > (i.e.
> > > > > > setup without STS is more involved).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Dmitri.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 3:09 PM Francois Papon <[email protected]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > About other solutions, I made some test to evaluate GaragHQ as
> an
> > > > > > > alternative to MinIO:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://garagehq.deuxfleurs.fr/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know if all the required functionnalities used by
> > Polaris are
> > > > > > > provided but for the test/quickstart part may be it can do the
> > job.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > François
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le 08/01/2026 à 16:35, Adam Christian a écrit :
> > > > > > > > Thanks, folks! Great points! I do like the idea of using
> > something
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > than MinIO.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My only 2 cents: For the quickstart docker compose file, I
> > believe
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > should use object storage that can be automatically
> configured
> > > > > without
> > > > > > > > having to put in credentials. The goal of the quickstart is
> to
> > have
> > > > > > > anyone
> > > > > > > > who has Docker running locally to be able to launch a
> > > > non-production
> > > > > > > > version of Polaris through a single command. It's targeted
> for
> > > > users
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > are just learning about Polaris. So, in my opinion, this
> rules
> > out
> > > > > AWS
> > > > > > > S3.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As long as we meet that criteria, I do think that changing
> > would be
> > > > > > > > appropriate. Thanks for bringing this up!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Go community,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Adam
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 9:16 AM Dmitri Bourlatchkov <
> > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Hi All,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Apache Ozone works well, AFAIK [1] but it certainly requires
> > more
> > > > > > setup
> > > > > > > >> work than MinIO.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> WDYT about RustFS? [2]
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> [1]
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://polaris.apache.org/in-dev/unreleased/getting-started/creating-a-catalog/s3/catalog-ozone/
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> [2] https://github.com/rustfs/rustfs
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > > > > >> Dmitri.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 8:46 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> Hi Yong,
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> I agree with your assessment regarding the recent changes
> to
> > > > MinIO
> > > > > > OSS.
> > > > > > > >> We
> > > > > > > >>> could evaluate Apache Ozone as a potential alternative;
> > while STS
> > > > > > might
> > > > > > > >>> require more changes, I believe it’s worth investigating.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> In the short term, we could update the quickstart guide to
> > use
> > > > AWS
> > > > > S3
> > > > > > > >> while
> > > > > > > >>> we wait to finalize the Ozone integration.
> > > > > > > >>> About Ceph, that's a good idea, assuming we have the same
> > kind of
> > > > > > > >>> layout/experience.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > > > > >>> JB
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 7:49 AM Yong Zheng <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Hello,
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> We have MinIO support as S3 compatible storage and this is
> > great
> > > > > as
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >>>> allows users to quickly test out Apache Polaris as a
> > catalog and
> > > > > > write
> > > > > > > >>> to a
> > > > > > > >>>> S3 compatible storage. However, as MinIO is now under
> > > > maintenance
> > > > > > mode
> > > > > > > >>> only
> > > > > > > >>>> for OSS (
> https://github.com/minio/minio?tab=readme-ov-file),
> > we
> > > > > > won't
> > > > > > > >> be
> > > > > > > >>>> able to get updated images from public image registry,
> > should we
> > > > > > > >> consider
> > > > > > > >>>> switch our primary getting-start example to non-MinIO one
> > > > instead
> > > > > > (the
> > > > > > > >>>> current one is MinIO as backend:
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/blob/main/getting-started/quickstart/docker-compose.yml
> > > > > > > >>> )?
> > > > > > > >>>> Without doing so, users will be likely pulling down
> outdated
> > > > MinIO
> > > > > > > >> images
> > > > > > > >>>> with critical CVEs couple months later for their local
> > setup to
> > > > > play
> > > > > > > >>>> around. If using outdated MinIO is a concern as the
> > > > getting-start
> > > > > > > >>> example,
> > > > > > > >>>> maybe we should switch to the Ceph one (
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/polaris/blob/main/getting-started/ceph/docker-compose.yml
> > > > > > > >>> )
> > > > > > > >>>> but updated it to match the same layout?
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>>> Yong Zheng
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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