+1 for 503 + Retry-After header.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2026 at 11:27 AM Robert Stupp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> +1 to returning 503 for this case, **with** the **Retry-After header** as
> discussed, so Iceberg REST clients have the expected retry signal for a
> non-idempotent request.
>
> Small process note: for future API-contract votes, it would be helpful to
> avoid running most of the vote window over a weekend when possible. This
> one seems narrow and already discussed, so I do not think it needs to
> restart, but weekday timing gives more people a practical chance to notice
> and respond.
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2026 at 10:42 AM Nándor Kollár <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 (non-binding)
> >
> > I think that '503 Service Unavailable' with a 'Retry-After' header
> > seems like the least bad option to me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nandor
> >
> > vignesh a <[email protected]> ezt írta (időpont: 2026. júl. 16.,
> > Cs, 16:44):
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Following the recent [DISCUSS] thread [1], I'd like to call a vote on the
> > > HTTP status code to return when a table or view rename operation fails
> > with
> > > TARGET_ENTITY_CONCURRENTLY_MODIFIED.
> > >
> > > *Background* 409 Conflict and 429 Too Many Requests were discussed as
> > > alternatives. However:
> > >
> > >    - 409 conflicts with the Iceberg REST spec's existing meaning ("target
> > >    identifier already exists"), so clients would misinterpret it.
> > >    - 429 implies rate limiting and carries Retry-After semantics that
> > don't
> > >    apply here.
> > >
> > > The discussion converged on *503 Service Unavailable* as the cleanest
> > > option - it is retryable and avoids the semantic conflicts above.
> > >
> > > *Proposal * Return HTTP *503 Service Unavailable* when a table/view
> > rename
> > > fails with TARGET_ENTITY_CONCURRENTLY_MODIFIED. This signals a temporary
> > > condition that clients can retry. Server-side automatic retries are *out
> > of
> > > scope* for this change and can be considered separately later.
> > >
> > > My vote: *+1*
> > >
> > > Please cast your vote by replying to this thread:
> > >
> > > [ ] *+1 / Yes* -- Approve returning 503 [ ] *-1 / No* -- Reject this
> > > proposal and resume discussion [ ] *0* -- Abstain
> > >
> > > This vote will remain open for 72 hours and close at *14:00 UTC on
> > Sunday,
> > > 19 July 2026*.
> > >
> > > Thanks, *Vignesh*
> > >
> > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/tr8zh8121t2jb41s0q2yd9s73y2tp2tq
> > >
> > > This change is implemented in PR #4646
> > > <https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/4646> .
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kollár Nándor
> >

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