Hi everyone. I'm new to the Apache Pulsar community but have spent the past ten years or so working in the Apache Cassandra community. I run the contributor zoom calls as well as the Cassandra Kubernetes SIG.
I thought I could share a couple of things we learned there. First, as you have been talking about, timezones are brutal. There is no possible way to accommodate everyone. We went the route of having two meetings for a while, but what we found is that eventually, the second meeting in chronological order would turn into a recap from the first meeting. We are only doing one meeting that rotates timezones for now, but I think for 2021 we'll look at alternating meeting times every other meeting. For example, 1st of the month is EU friendly time. 15th of month APAC friendly time. Would love to collaborate on how best to make this work because I think this is a problem with a lot of projects. The second is maintaining communication and inclusivity in the Apache community. Apache guidelines are very clear about the need for transparent communication (https://www.apache.org/theapacheway/) In the Cassandra project, we record every meeting and publish to YouTube. ( https://www.youtube.com/c/PlanetCassandra) This channel is owned by multiple members so it isn't exclusive to any one person or company. We are also looking at creating written transcripts of each meeting to increase inclusivity. There isn't a requirement to publish to YouTube but at a minimum, detailed notes of every meeting should be published somewhere and as usual. any decisions should be discussed and made on the dev@ mailing list. Ultimately it's the responsibility of the PMC for the Pulsar project to enforce these rules. I'm just adding this as a warning because I've seen a few Apache projects go down the route of creating exclusive channels of decision making and it doesn't end well. It's better to over-rotate on open communication by default. Thanks and looking forward to becoming more involved in the Apache Pulsar community! Patrick McFadin On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:38 PM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote: > Tuesday 2nd February 4pm PST works for me as first meeting date. > > I am fine with having two meetings as well if this will help participation. > > Regarding the YouTube recordings, I am afraid that this would scare people > that maybe would like to attend or tell their opinion but they don't feel > good in being recorded and published on social. > > I would skip YouTube at least for the first times > > Enrico > > > > > Il Ven 29 Gen 2021, 20:27 Rui Fu <f...@rui.sh> ha scritto: > > > Agreed with @sijie’s proposal. Double events are more reasonable and > > friendly, also +1 for the recordings @YouTube. Look forward to attend the > > community meeting, cheers. > > > > > > Best, > > > > Rui Fu > > 在 2021年1月29日 +0800 PM4:53，Sijie Guo <guosi...@gmail.com>，写道： > > > That's a super great idea! Thank you for bringing this up! > > > > > > Given there are a lot of committers/contributors are from North America > > and > > > Asia, I think we should pick up a better time that would be suitable > for > > > people from Asia (Japan and China). > > > In the bookkeeper community, we used to run two events. One is to cover > > NA > > > and Asia, and the other one is to cover NA and EU. > > > > > > I would suggest running biweekly meetings. > > > > > > - Tuesday 4 PM - 5 PM PST for NA and Asia > > > - Thursday 8 AM - 9 AM PST for NA and EU > > > > > > All the events can be recorded and uploaded to Youtube. So people are > > able > > > to watch the recordings as well. > > > > > > If people are good with this proposal, I am happy to set up and > > coordinate > > > the meetings given I have run many meetings in the BookKeeper community > > > before. > > > > > > We can get started next Tuesday and formalize the process as we go. > > Please > > > vote for your idea. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sijie > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 12:05 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > in the BookKeeper community we used to have "Community Meetings" in > > order > > > > to meet each other, discuss current works on the project, share > > knowledge > > > > about current problems. > > > > > > > > What about having Community meetings for Pulsar ? > > > > I would be happy to organize and to host the first meeting. > > > > > > > > In Apache we keep the decisions and the discussions on mailing lists, > > so > > > > these meetings would be only to share information and we are not > going > > to > > > > make decisions. > > > > > > > > The Pulsar community is distributed all over the world, we have > people > > from > > > > China, the US, Europe, it will be hard to find a good time for > > everyone. > > > > I suggest for the first meeting to meet at 8:30 PST > > > > > > > > For reference, this is the link to the "minutes" of the Community > > Meetings > > > > in BK, > > > > Sijie and Matteo will remember those days > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BOOKKEEPER/Community+Meetings > > > > > > > > > > > > Enrico > > > > > > >
