Hi Jiaqi,

Let's move to https://lists.apache.org/thread/mbrpjsgrgwrlkdpvkk738jxnlk7rf4qk
for the vote.

Thanks,
Yunze

On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 1:54 PM Jiaqi Shen <gleiphir2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is make sense to me, +1
>
> Thanks,
> Jiaqi Shen
>
>
> Yunze Xu <y...@streamnative.io.invalid> 于2022年12月7日周三 13:51写道:
>
> > Hi Baodi,
> >
> > I decided not to change the behavior of the `negativeAcknowledge`
> > method. I just checked again that there is no exception signature for
> > this method and there is no asynchronous version like
> > `negativeAcknowledgeAsync`. To keep the API compatible, we should not
> > add an exception signature, which would be required if a
> > `PulsarClientException` was thrown.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Yunze
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 10:12 PM Baodi Shi <baodi....@icloud.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Yunze:
> > >
> > > Thanks for your proposal. That Looks good to me.
> > >
> > > `negativeAcknowledge` also needs to add the same checks as the new
> > acknowledge interface.
> > >
> > > > This interface doesn't add any acknowledge overload because the
> > overloads are already too many. But it will make the behavior clear.
> > > I think since we exposed the TopicMessageId, it would be better to add
> > overloaded interfaces (even if the overloads are a lot). This can users to
> > clearly associate the use cases of MultiTopicConsumer and TopicMessageId.
> > >
> > > Also, while it's okay to use TopicMessageId param on a single consumer,
> > I guess we shouldn't allow users to use it.
> > >
> > > In this way, users are clearly aware that TopicMessageId is used when
> > using MultiTopicConsumer and MessageId is used when using
> > SingleTopicConsumer.(Maybe it's not a good idea)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Baodi Shi
> > >
> > > > 2022年11月29日 15:57,Yunze Xu <y...@streamnative.io.INVALID> 写道:
> > > >
> > > >> Is there a case where the user uses the messageId returned by the
> > > > producer to seek in the consumer? Is this a good behavior?
> > > >
> > > > Yes. I think it should be acceptable. To correct my previous point,
> > > > now I think the MessageId returned by send should also be able to be
> > > > applied for seek or acknowledge.
> > > >
> > > >> even with the
> > > > current proposal, it may return null when getting the topic from
> > > > TopicMessageId for backward compatibility.
> > > >
> > > > No. It may return null just because Java doesn't allow a non-null
> > > > returned value. The internal implementations of
> > > > TopicMessageId#getOwerTopic should return a non-null topic name to
> > > > avoid null check.
> > > >
> > > > When I mentioned **the implementation of getTopicName() must return
> > > > null**, the assumption is that MessageId#toByteArray serializes the
> > > > topic name if adding the `getTopicName()` method. However, in this
> > > > proposal, `TopicMessageId#toByteArray` won't. See the implementation
> > > > of `TopicMessageId#create`. It's only a wrapper for an arbitrary
> > > > MessageId implementation.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Yunze
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 2:47 PM Zike Yang <z...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Yunze,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for your proposal. Quoted from your GitHub comments[0]:
> > > >>
> > > >>> There is also a case when MessageId is returned from Producer#send.
> > In this case, the returned MessageId should only used for serialization
> > > >>
> > > >> Is there a case where the user uses the messageId returned by the
> > > >> producer to seek in the consumer? Is this a good behavior?
> > > >>
> > > >>> If we added the method directly to MessageId, to keep the backward
> > compatibility, the implementation of getTopicName() must return null, which
> > is not a good design.
> > > >>
> > > >> I think it's a trade-off. If I understand correctly, even with the
> > > >> current proposal, it may return null when getting the topic from
> > > >> TopicMessageId for backward compatibility. The current
> > > >> TopicMessageIdImpl doesn't serialize the topic information.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> [0]
> > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/18616#issuecomment-1328609346
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Zike Yang
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 12:22 PM Yunze Xu
> > <y...@streamnative.io.invalid> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi all,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've opened a PIP to discuss:
> > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/18616.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The consumer's MessageId related APIs have some hidden requirements
> > > >>> and flakiness and some behaviors are not documented well. This
> > > >>> proposal will introduce a TopicMessageId interface that exposes a
> > > >>> method to get a message's owner topic.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> P.S. There was an email [1] that didn't add the "[DISCUSS]" label,
> > > >>> which might be a little confusing. So I sent the email again for
> > > >>> discussion. Please do not reply to the previous email.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/6gj16pmrjk6ncsd30xrl20pr5ng6t61o
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>> Yunze
> > >
> >

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