+1 (binding)

Thanks,
Yunze

On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 6:47 PM Nicolò Boschi <boschi1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> +1 (binding)
>
> Nicolò Boschi
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>
> Il giorno gio 9 feb 2023 alle ore 11:17 Zike Yang <z...@apache.org> ha
> scritto:
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> > +1 (non-binding)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Zike Yang
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 5:28 PM PengHui Li <codelipeng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 (binding)
> > >
> > > Penghui
> > >
> > > > On Feb 9, 2023, at 17:24, Nozomi Kurihara <nkuri...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > The LTS plan seems clear and helpful for users.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Nozomi
> > > >
> > > > 2023年2月9日(木) 5:44 Matteo Merli <matteo.me...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15966
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ## Motivation
> > > >>
> > > >> In PIP-47 (
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/wiki/PIP-47:-Time-Based-Release-Plan),
> > we
> > > >> have adopted a time-based release plan. This was the first attempt at
> > > >> establishing a new principle on how releases should b
> > > >>
> > > >> The main two benefits of this approach have been:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. Clarity for users and developers on when to expect a release
> > > >> 2. Breaking a hard relationship between feature and release: a
> > particular
> > > >> feature will be included in the release if it is completed in time.
> > > >> Otherwise, it will be bubbled up to the next release.
> > > >>
> > > >> The motivation for the current proposal is to extend the existing
> > process
> > > >> to address the issues that we have seen and that were left out of the
> > scope
> > > >> of PIP-47.
> > > >>
> > > >> ## Summary of existing issues in the process
> > > >>
> > > >> ### Short maintenance cycles for releases
> > > >>
> > > >> Since we're doing a 3 months release cycle, we are ending with 4
> > releases
> > > >> done per year, even though it's more close to 3 releases.
> > > >>
> > > >> There is a high cost to maintain a lot of old releases, backport bug
> > fixes,
> > > >> and security patches. In general, we actively support the last 3 minor
> > > >> releases while continuing to develop the next release. E.g., 2.8,
> > 2.9, and
> > > >> 2.10, while 2.11 is under development.
> > > >>
> > > >> The result is that a user adopting a particular release is forced to
> > > >> upgrade in a < 1-year timeframe to keep up to date and use a supported
> > > >> release. This timeframe is too short for many users as it imposes a
> > lot of
> > > >> forced upgrades, for which they are not prepared in terms of
> > available time
> > > >> and required effort.
> > > >>
> > > >> ### Live Upgrade/Downgrade compatibility path
> > > >>
> > > >> In Pulsar, we guarantee that users have a way to do live upgrades and
> > > >> downgrades with zero downtime.
> > > >>
> > > >> This is very powerful because it gives them the freedom to upgrade to
> > a new
> > > >> release with the assurance of being able to roll back to the previous
> > > >> release in case any functional or performance regressions are
> > encountered.
> > > >>
> > > >> Today, this compatibility is guaranteed across minor versions. Eg: I
> > can do
> > > >> `2.7 -> 2.8 -> 2.7` as a live upgrade.
> > > >>
> > > >> What is not guaranteed is to "skip" releases. E.g.: `2.7 -> 2.9`
> > might work
> > > >> or not, but it's not guaranteed. In that case an intermediated upgrade
> > > >> would be required: `2.7 -> 2.8 -> 2.9`.
> > > >>
> > > >> The reasons for which the "skip" upgrade might not work are multiple:
> > > >>  1. Incompatible upgrade of some dependency (e.g., ZooKeeper) that
> > might
> > > >> not be compatible with an older version.
> > > >>  2. Adoption of a new metadata format or data format on disk.
> > > >>     Every time we introduce a new incompatible format change (outside
> > of a
> > > >> regular Protobuf field addition), we do it in a 2 steps way:
> > > >>      - In a new release, we introduce the new feature/format,
> > disabled by
> > > >> default. The new release can read both old and new formats, though it
> > keeps
> > > >> writing the old format by default.
> > > >>      - In a subsequent release, we change the default to the new
> > format
> > > >>
> > > >> Note that this consideration is separate from the compatibility
> > between
> > > >> clients and brokers, where we ***never*** break compatibility. The
> > oldest
> > > >> available Pulsar client can still talk with the newest Pulsar broker,
> > and
> > > >> vice versa, a new client, will be perfectly fine with an older broker
> > > >> (except the new features won't be working).
> > > >>
> > > >> ### Releases getting delayed
> > > >>
> > > >> Another problem we have been experiencing is that release cycles have
> > been
> > > >> stretching considerably. Part of this has been because we have been
> > > >> reaching the end of the release window, preparing a candidate, and
> > then
> > > >> taking a long time to flush out all issues found at the last minute
> > in the
> > > >> new release.
> > > >>
> > > >> We need to ensure that we have a date set in stone to deliver the
> > release
> > > >> to users.
> > > >>
> > > >> ## Proposal
> > > >>
> > > >> The proposal to address the above issues is composed of 2 parts.
> > > >>
> > > >> ### 1. Establish Long Term Support releases
> > > >>
> > > >> We need to provide a way for users to quickly understand the expected
> > > >> lifecycle timeline of a given release and for that timeline to be long
> > > >> enough not to be a constant update mandate.
> > > >>
> > > >> At the same time, we need to ensure that we maintainers are not
> > spending
> > > >> all the time just maintaining a huge list of old releases.
> > > >>
> > > >> For that, we can use the established concept of "Long Term Releases"
> > or
> > > >> LTS.
> > > >>
> > > >> We will perform LTS releases at a fixed cadence every 18 months, and
> > we
> > > >> will keep doing regular feature releases every 3 months as we're
> > currently
> > > >> doing.
> > > >>
> > > >> The LTS releases will be identified by being a `.0` version. For
> > example:
> > > >> * `3.0` -> LTS
> > > >> * `3.1` -> regular release
> > > >> * `3.2` -> regular release
> > > >> * `4.0` -> LTS
> > > >>
> > > >> The major version bump will not carry any special meaning in terms of
> > "big
> > > >> features" included in the release or breaking API changes. Instead, it
> > > >> would simply signal the type of the release.
> > > >>
> > > >> #### Compatibility between releases
> > > >>
> > > >> It will be guaranteed to be able to do a live upgrade/downgrade
> > between one
> > > >> LTS and the next one.
> > > >>
> > > >> For example:
> > > >>
> > > >> * `3.0 -> 4.0 -> 3.0` : OK
> > > >> * `3.2 -> 4.0 -> 3.2` : OK
> > > >> * `3.2 -> 4.4 -> 3.2` : OK
> > > >> * `3.2 -> 5.0` : Not OK
> > > >>
> > > >> #### Release support expectation
> > > >>
> > > >> We will publish clear guidelines on the Pulsar website regarding the
> > > >> expected timeline for which each release is supported and when the new
> > > >> feature and LTS releases will be available.
> > > >>
> > > >> The support model will be:
> > > >>
> > > >> * LTS
> > > >>   * Released every 18 months
> > > >>   * Support for 24 months
> > > >>   * Security patches for 36 months
> > > >> * Feature releases
> > > >>   * Released every 3 months
> > > >>   * Support for 6 months
> > > >>   * Security patches for 6 months
> > > >>
> > > >> This can be translated into:
> > > >>   * We support the last 2 LTS releases and the last 2 feature releases
> > > >>   * Security patches are provided for the past 3 LTS releases and 2
> > > >> feature releases
> > > >>
> > > >> Users are therefore encouraged to stay in an LTS release until they
> > are
> > > >> ready to jump into the next LTS unless they want to have access to
> > some of
> > > >> the features included in the latest feature releases.
> > > >>
> > > >> ### 2. Introduce a code-freeze period in the release cycle
> > > >>
> > > >> To address the problem with delayed release cycles, we are
> > introducing a
> > > >> code freeze period that will give us time to stabilize the release
> > code
> > > >> while not blocking new changes from being merged into master for the
> > > >> subsequent version.
> > > >>
> > > >> This code-freeze will only be adopted for LTS/feature releases, not
> > for any
> > > >> patch release.
> > > >>
> > > >> In a 3 months release cycle, the last 3 weeks will be marked as a code
> > > >> freeze period. The release manager will branch off from master, and
> > he will
> > > >> be responsible for selecting the changes that will be cherry-picked
> > in the
> > > >> release branch.
> > > >>
> > > >> From the code-freeze point, to minimize the risk of delaying the
> > release,
> > > >> only bug fixes involving a regression of behavior compared to a
> > previous
> > > >> release should be allowed. Occasional exceptions will be possible
> > after
> > > >> higher scrutiny of the change.
> > > >>
> > > >> At the moment of the code freeze, the release manager will also
> > prepare a
> > > >> release candidate in the same way we are doing today. Committers,
> > > >> contributors, and users will test this RC to detect issues as early as
> > > >> possible.
> > > >>
> > > >> A formal vote by the PMC will not be required at this stage (though
> > any
> > > >> disagreement should be sent out ASAP).
> > > >>
> > > >> After 1 week, if there are any changes, the release manager will
> > provide a
> > > >> new RC release that the community will test again.
> > > >>
> > > >> After 1 more week, if there are any changes, a third RC will be
> > prepared,
> > > >> and this will be submitted to vote to the PMC. Otherwise, the vote
> > will be
> > > >> held on an earlier RC release if no issues are found.
> > > >>
> > > >> The last 1 week will be used for the voting process and for updating
> > Pulsar
> > > >> website and the blog post announcing the release, which should
> > (hopefully)
> > > >> happen on the scheduled day.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Matteo Merli
> > > >> <matteo.me...@gmail.com>
> > > >>
> > >
> >

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