Hi Zike,

I just reverted the commits of PIP-195 (minutes before your mail 😄)
except for 
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/e248e14473142765db1df324c20a081a2422980e
Maybe we should keep that one since it will be a breaking change if we
do it later.

Le lun. 24 avr. 2023 à 11:52, Zike Yang <z...@apache.org> a écrit :
>
> Hi, all
>
> Based on the above discussion, I will revert all these commits. They
> are all related to the improvement of the PIP-195:
> * 
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/e248e14473142765db1df324c20a081a2422980e
> * 
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/e1d63990644700bf61b3d7af1ef6d4d62145c2bb
> * 
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/ff59240165c73a9c3a3dcca20702ab44b0b18d33
> * 
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/49480ea558e647169e8df01bfd2e871a5386e19e
> * 
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/1d1a3ef864a65c995ceda4b7875ed934c2574298
>
> This commit has been reverted:
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/3da39b2e1553cecbc6d6b85e8bc7844f611d5637
>
> And we keep these two commits for Pulsar 3.0.0:
> * 
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/0df741259505b9189147d72c6f013b2c18f0436c
> * 
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/d05871213adc351d4c718c2a6fb0909b01d279ff
>
> @Nicolò Could you provide more context for this commit:
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/e27abe9e128fb71b65ffe06417574c9a7f3facbd?
> Do we need to include it in Pulsar 3.0.0?
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Zike Yang
> Zike Yang
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 5:23 PM Zike Yang <z...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Michael
> >
> > Thanks for your explanation. I'm +1 for keeping these commits.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Zike Yang
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 12:47 AM Michael Marshall <mmarsh...@apache.org> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > So to respect the code freeze, I propose to revert all those commits 
> > > > except:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/19849
> > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20086
> > >
> > > Can you enumerate which commits you want to revert? 19849 was not
> > > cherry picked, so it is not relevant to this discussion.
> > >
> > > I feel strongly that we need to keep the following commits:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/370f6d7af78fa7bd8f92f8116fac4e3cf32adecb
> > >
> > > Justification: I broke the AuthenticationProviderList with my changes
> > > from PIP 97. This commit fixes that regression from 2.11.
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/b839536cb05a0e1c737d9fb87edae1e054fd301b
> > >
> > > Justification: this fixes a broken error log to help users quickly
> > > identify a Kubernetes bug that users of the OIDC plugin will
> > > definitely encounter. I spent at least 4 hours earlier this week
> > > tracking down an issue that would have been obvious had the error log
> > > been correct. The change is very small and easy to understand, and
> > > will save users a lot of time.
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/0df741259505b9189147d72c6f013b2c18f0436c
> > >
> > > Justification: this is a one line bug fix that is necessary for OIDC
> > > to work in function pods. It is well understood and covered by a test.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 5:27 AM Zike Yang <z...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I understand that the optimization PRs are nice but if we start to
> > > > > accept them, why not accepting all the others and the code freeze
> > > > > becomes pointless.
> > > > > We can do a 3.0.1 shortly after to include all those enhancements.
> > > >
> > > > Totally +1 for this.
> > > >
> > > > > The mailing list is too "slow" for this kind of stuff. For more 
> > > > > complex
> > > > > discussions, there's always the possibility to start a thread here.
> > > >
> > > > I still recommend discussing the cherry-pick on the mailing list.
> > > > For the LTS release, we need to be very careful when cherry-picking
> > > > the commit. All cherry-picked commits that enter the LTS version
> > > > should be noticed for everyone. They should all be considered as
> > > > important changes. Another benefit of discussing it in the mailing
> > > > list is that we can keep the context of the cherry-pick permanently.
> > > >
> > > > As long as we have a consensus, then any committers can cherry-pick the 
> > > > commit.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Zike Yang
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 6:08 PM Cong Zhao <zhaoc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree with this, other PRs can move to 3.0.1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Cong Zhao
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2023/04/21 09:43:20 Christophe Bornet wrote:
> > > > > > So to respect the code freeze, I propose to revert all those 
> > > > > > commits except:
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/19849
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20086
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I understand that the optimization PRs are nice but if we start to
> > > > > > accept them, why not accepting all the others and the code freeze
> > > > > > becomes pointless.
> > > > > > We can do a 3.0.1 shortly after to include all those enhancements.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do we have an agreement on this ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Christophe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le ven. 21 avr. 2023 à 11:36, Cong Zhao <zhaoc...@apache.org> a 
> > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I strongly agree that these cherry-pick should be notified to the 
> > > > > > > release managers to avoid unintended consequences.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PR https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20086 is to solve a 
> > > > > > > serious bug it will lead to the pulsar-io block, so it is very 
> > > > > > > necessary to cherry-pick into 3.0. The rest of the PRs are 
> > > > > > > optimized for large amounts of data, we also can discuss whether 
> > > > > > > they are necessary to cherry-pick into 3.0.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Cong Zhao
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2023/04/21 07:26:43 Nicolò Boschi wrote:
> > > > > > > > I believe that currently there's no clear process in place in 
> > > > > > > > order to
> > > > > > > > decide whether a commit should be cherry-picked into the frozen 
> > > > > > > > branch.
> > > > > > > > I know that we have a slack channel for the release coordination
> > > > > > > > #pulsar-release-3_0, which is open to everyone.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One solution would be to let the release managers cherry-pick 
> > > > > > > > the commits -
> > > > > > > > they are the contributors more focused on the stability of the 
> > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > branch and they might be able to discuss if it's worthwhile.
> > > > > > > > Their opinion is not more important than others, but they need 
> > > > > > > > to know it
> > > > > > > > anyway and they could spot incompatibilities and avoid 
> > > > > > > > unintended
> > > > > > > > consequences.
> > > > > > > > The mailing list is too "slow" for this kind of stuff. For more 
> > > > > > > > complex
> > > > > > > > discussions, there's always the possibility to start a thread 
> > > > > > > > here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When a committer would like to cherry-pick a commit, instead of 
> > > > > > > > directly
> > > > > > > > going for it without any discussion, they can ask in the 
> > > > > > > > release slack
> > > > > > > > channel.
> > > > > > > > The release managers will eventually cherry-pick it.
> > > > > > > > If there's no consensus then the discussion is moved to the 
> > > > > > > > mailing list. I
> > > > > > > > believe this wouldn't happen often, considering that currently 
> > > > > > > > we rely on
> > > > > > > > the common sense of committers.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What do you think?
> > > > > > > > Nicolò Boschi
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Il giorno ven 21 apr 2023 alle ore 07:58 Cong Zhao 
> > > > > > > > <zhaoc...@apache.org> ha
> > > > > > > > scritto:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Zike,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry for cherry-picking the new delayed message PRs to 
> > > > > > > > > branch-3.0.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Would be very grateful if we could get to 3.0 since it is the 
> > > > > > > > > new feature
> > > > > > > > > of the delayed message and has no impact on other components.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > These PR is important to PIP-195, they will fix some problem 
> > > > > > > > > with the new
> > > > > > > > > delayed message and make this new feature work better.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Need to cherry-pick PR:
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20086
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20111
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20126
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20136
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20117
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20155
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20156
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/pull/20158
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > Cong Zhao
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 2023/04/21 05:36:26 Zike Yang wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi, all
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We found that there were a lot of commits that were 
> > > > > > > > > > cherry-picked to
> > > > > > > > > > branch-3.0 without any discussion or notification to reach a
> > > > > > > > > > consensus. Some PRs marked for the 3.1.0 milestone were also
> > > > > > > > > > cherry-picked into branch-3.0. Here are the corresponding
> > > > > > > > > > cherry-picked commits:
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/3da39b2e1553cecbc6d6b85e8bc7844f611d5637
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/e248e14473142765db1df324c20a081a2422980e
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/e27abe9e128fb71b65ffe06417574c9a7f3facbd
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/e1d63990644700bf61b3d7af1ef6d4d62145c2bb
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/ff59240165c73a9c3a3dcca20702ab44b0b18d33
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/49480ea558e647169e8df01bfd2e871a5386e19e
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/1d1a3ef864a65c995ceda4b7875ed934c2574298
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/0df741259505b9189147d72c6f013b2c18f0436c
> > > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commit/d05871213adc351d4c718c2a6fb0909b01d279ff
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > According to our release policy[0] and the code freeze 
> > > > > > > > > > notification
> > > > > > > > > > [1], all commits that need to be cherry-picked into 
> > > > > > > > > > branch-3.0 will
> > > > > > > > > > require reaching the consensus before cherry-picking.
> > > > > > > > > > Before cherry-picking the commit, we need to provide the 
> > > > > > > > > > context for
> > > > > > > > > > why it needs to be cherry-picked into branch-3.0. Then mark 
> > > > > > > > > > it with
> > > > > > > > > > the 3.0.0 milestone and raise the discussion to reach a 
> > > > > > > > > > consensus.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I would like to start a discussion regarding the context 
> > > > > > > > > > for the above
> > > > > > > > > > cherry-picked commits. Should we include them in Pulsar 3.0?
> > > > > > > > > > If there is still no consensus for the above commits, we 
> > > > > > > > > > may need to
> > > > > > > > > > revert them before the RC3.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns, please do not 
> > > > > > > > > > hesitate to let
> > > > > > > > > > us know. Thanks for your cooperation.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > [0] 
> > > > > > > > > > https://pulsar.apache.org/contribute/release-policy/#release-cycles
> > > > > > > > > > [1] 
> > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/43d28rtzsx7x3o4zd523jr5dmnczrn4h
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > Zike Yang
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >

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