Hi David, *,

On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 07:33:42AM -0400, David Black wrote:
> 
> From what I've gleaned, I will need to download a
> number of items from the OOo website (and perhaps
> other websites).

Not necessarily...

> I was hoping that someone (of
> knkowledge) could list the items that I would require
> in order to be of use.

You need OOo (of course). If possible both the stable version (OOo
1.1.5) and the current developer milestone (1.9m125).
Installing release candidates would be great as well.

But you don't need to have all versions. Depending on where you want to
put the most effort into.

> I have been using OOo (mostly Writer and Calc) and
> have discovered several things that I believe could be
> improved upon. I have not reported these matters since
> I have not requested volunteer privileges. I fairly
> frequently have the crashrep tool dialogue box appear
> and I would like to be in a position to reply to these
> issues.

The crashreports are collected by sun and are not evaluated seperately.
A tool searches the reports for common things and when there are a lot
of reports with the same "cause", the developers will have a look.

There is no way for a volunteer to access these reports

> Crashrep never completes my report and I
> presume that is because I do not have volunteer
> privileges.

No, that has nothing to do with privileges. Either it is a bug that
makes crashrep fail, or your internet connection blocks sending the
report (make sure you configured the proxy if you need to use one).

If you can reproduce such situations, just file an issue, attaching all
needed files and giving a step-by-step instruction.

> Items you must know:
>      a) I am not a coder; I would like to learn to
> code in C, C++ and C#, however, that will take some
> time. Are those the languages of OOo, or should I be
> looking elsewhere?

Yes, with C/C++ you are on the safe side. Most (almost all) of OOo is in
C++

>      b) I have programmed in Fortran a l-o-n-g time
> ago, but still recall some of the principles.

I think this won't help..

>      c) I am a pretty advanced user of the Windows OS,
> having used it for many years and many versions.

And this only partially..

>      d) I am a demanding user of Writer and Calc and
> have tested out Calc to see if I can do the same
> things with it that Microsoft says is not possible to
> do with Excel - except I can. 

That is very good :-)

> [...]
> Please let me know if you think I might be of
> assistance, I really would like it if I could.

In QA-Project we always need volunteers to take care of the unconfirmed
issues. (Check that they are valid, that the description is
comprehensible).

For this task you need an internet connection and need the will to get
in touch/learn to use IssueZilla. This task usually doesn't require
programming skills. Sometimes a special configuration or a special
third-party program is necessary to reproduce, but there are enough
other issues that you can check with OOo alone as well.

For this, you should have the stable version and the most current
milestone installed.

> One area that I REALLY wish you would tackle is
> creating an all-OOo Browser. At the persent, I'm using
> Opera (7.54 and 8.0.1); Firefox 1.0.3; Avant 10.0
> Build 168; and the latest Internet Explorer. The two
> browsers of choice are Opera 7.54 and Avant.

Hmm - not sure what you mean with this. What is an all-OOo browser?
 
> [...] 
> Still I would prefer to do more than just report
> things that go bump in the night. I'm not familiar
> with Testtool, CVS, Smoke Tests, Bugzilla and the host
> of items that you use to keep the project up and
> running. However, I am a quick study and should be
> more than ready to be a huge help in a short time, say
> on OOo 3.0 or 4.0.. (tiny joke?)

LOL. The Testtool is another thing you can use (it runs automated
tests). For this you need a computer that is idle or that is only used
for office-computing. (Heavy disk i/o or high cpu usage would only lead
to timeouts) 

The smoketests are the manual tests. (You'll find a package that
contains the instructions and the necessary sample documens in the
Documents&Files section of the qa-website)

> Thanks. Please let me know what else you require of me
> so that I can have volunteer privileges.

The privileges are only needed for working with IZ (confirming issues).

Required are:
IZ-Housekeepers (people who confirm issues, mark duplicates as such,...)
Testers either systematically (using the smoketests or tests defined in
TCM), automatically (using the testtool) or manually. The important
thing is that you do not only test, but that you report any errors you
find to issueZilla.

If you want to improve the website, go ahead :-) (a graphical
representation of IZ-statistics would be nice as well)

But the biggest junk of QA-work is IssueZilla.

ciao
Christian
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NP: Metallica - Welcome Home (Sanitarium)

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