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Lorenz Quack commented on QPID-7872:
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>From an IRC conversation between myself and [~rgodfrey] (with some slight 
>editing for clarity):
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<lorenz> May I ask for some AMQP 1.0 clarification regarding TTL and 
absolute-expiry-time?
<lorenz> at first glance they seem to be completely redundant.
<lorenz> but I have come to the opinion that maybe they are not and that we 
should only delete a message if it TTLed but not act on reaching the 
absolute-expiry-time
<lorenz> can you shed some light on the intention here?
<rgodfrey> absolute expiry time is a property of the message and is in essence 
contractual (I am stating that after midnight on 31st Dec 2017 this message is 
no longer valid)
<rgodfrey> and is part of the signable bare message
<rgodfrey> ttl is a hint to intermediaries that they can discard the message if 
the ttl drops to zero or below
<rgodfrey> So the difference is really the audience
<rgodfrey> ttl is aimed at the infrastructure
<rgodfrey> absolute-expiry is aimed at the recipient
<rgodfrey> So I would agree with you that you should only delete based on ttl
<lorenz> so if we reach the absolute-expiry-time... should the broker discard 
the message? my opinion was "no". this is information for the receiving 
application
<rgodfrey> I would agree
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> [Java Broker] [AMQP 1.0] Message expiry should be driven from ttl header only
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>
>                 Key: QPID-7872
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-7872
>             Project: Qpid
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Java Broker
>            Reporter: Alex Rudyy
>             Fix For: qpid-java-broker-7.0.0
>
>
> Java broker should only discard message with ttl header set if TTL expires 
> including 0 values. Ensure TTL is adjusted before sending the message.



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