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Kim van der Riet updated PROTON-1786:
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    Description: 
This is not a bug (although it could become one), but rather an observation of 
large message transfer patterns observed using Wireshark while running Qpid 
Interop Test's amqp_large_content_test.

The test sends large messages through a broker (in this case, dispatch router) 
of size 1MB and 10MB.

I hope to add other observable patterns from other clients if they are 
significant. If there is consensus that this is a potential large message 
transfer efficiency issue, then this Jira can be a placeholder for this issue.

In  this test, the receiver is using TCP port 59806 and the sender port 59808. 
The router is using the standard AMQP port.
h2. C++ client:

The client in this case uses the Proton C++ API and is based on the 
SimpleSender.cpp example. To isolate the traffic from this client, use the 
following filter in Wireshark:
{noformat}
amqp.performative == transfer && tcp.srcport == 59808{noformat}
It can be seen that although there is a large message being sent, the sender 
appears to be restricted to a single transfer of 16kB or a 64kB frame 
containing 4 transfers (very occasionally, 2, 3 or 5 transfers) - for example:
{noformat}
35      1.972620        ::1     ::1     AMQP    16470   transfer
1177    2.032878        ::1     ::1     AMQP    65550   transfer transfer 
transfer transfer
{noformat}
h2. Dispatch Router:

This uses Proton through its native C interface. To isolate the traffic from 
the router to the receiver, use the following Wireshark filter:
{noformat}
amqp.performative == transfer && tcp.dstport == 59806{noformat}
The traffic for this broker looks very different. Each frame contains only a 
single transfer, and the size of the transfers differ widely, from 196 bytes to 
the full 64kB max. I am assuming that the router is sending on message content 
it has received as soon as it becomes available no matter the size.

  was:
This is not a bug (although it could become one), but rather an observation of 
large message transfer patterns observed using Wireshark while running Qpid 
Interop Test's amqp_large_content_test.

The test sends large messages through a broker (in this case, dispatch router) 
of size 1MB and 10MB.

I hope to add other observable patterns from other clients if they are 
significant. If there is consensus that this is a potential large message 
transfer efficiency issue, then this Jira can be a placeholder for this issue.

In  this test, the receiver is using TCP port 59806 and the sender port 59808. 
The router is using the standard AMQP port.
h2. C++ client:

The client in this case uses the Proton C++ API and is based on the 
SimpleSender.cpp example. To isolate the traffic from this client, use the 
following filter in Wireshark:
{noformat}
amqp.performative == transfer && tcp.srcport == 59808{noformat}
It can be seen that although there is a large message being sent, the sender 
appears to be restricted to transfers of 16kB or a 64kB frame containing 4 
transfers (very occasionally, 2, 3 or 5 transfers) - for example:
{noformat}
35      1.972620        ::1     ::1     AMQP    16470   transfer
1177    2.032878        ::1     ::1     AMQP    65550   transfer transfer 
transfer transfer
{noformat}
h2. Dispatch Router:

This uses Proton through its native C interface. To isolate the traffic from 
the router to the receiver, use the following Wireshark filter:
{noformat}
amqp.performative == transfer && tcp.dstport == 59806{noformat}
The traffic for this broker looks very different. Each frame contains only a 
single transfer, and the size of the transfers differ widely, from 196 bytes to 
the full 64kB max. I am assuming that the router is sending on message content 
it has received as soon as it becomes available no matter the size.


> Multiframe transfer wire traffic patterns differ substantially
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: PROTON-1786
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PROTON-1786
>             Project: Qpid Proton
>          Issue Type: Task
>            Reporter: Kim van der Riet
>            Priority: Major
>         Attachments: dispatch.multiframe.07.pcapng
>
>
> This is not a bug (although it could become one), but rather an observation 
> of large message transfer patterns observed using Wireshark while running 
> Qpid Interop Test's amqp_large_content_test.
> The test sends large messages through a broker (in this case, dispatch 
> router) of size 1MB and 10MB.
> I hope to add other observable patterns from other clients if they are 
> significant. If there is consensus that this is a potential large message 
> transfer efficiency issue, then this Jira can be a placeholder for this issue.
> In  this test, the receiver is using TCP port 59806 and the sender port 
> 59808. The router is using the standard AMQP port.
> h2. C++ client:
> The client in this case uses the Proton C++ API and is based on the 
> SimpleSender.cpp example. To isolate the traffic from this client, use the 
> following filter in Wireshark:
> {noformat}
> amqp.performative == transfer && tcp.srcport == 59808{noformat}
> It can be seen that although there is a large message being sent, the sender 
> appears to be restricted to a single transfer of 16kB or a 64kB frame 
> containing 4 transfers (very occasionally, 2, 3 or 5 transfers) - for example:
> {noformat}
> 35    1.972620        ::1     ::1     AMQP    16470   transfer
> 1177  2.032878        ::1     ::1     AMQP    65550   transfer transfer 
> transfer transfer
> {noformat}
> h2. Dispatch Router:
> This uses Proton through its native C interface. To isolate the traffic from 
> the router to the receiver, use the following Wireshark filter:
> {noformat}
> amqp.performative == transfer && tcp.dstport == 59806{noformat}
> The traffic for this broker looks very different. Each frame contains only a 
> single transfer, and the size of the transfers differ widely, from 196 bytes 
> to the full 64kB max. I am assuming that the router is sending on message 
> content it has received as soon as it becomes available no matter the size.



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