+1 what Roman said about dev traffic. It seems to me that features come out of nowhere and I can only surmise that significant discussion is happening back-channel. The dev list should be the “front door” of the project and I think that to would-be contributors it looks pretty tightly shut.
Another instance: I tried to kick off a discussion on the dev list about the future of the project. IIRC, no one chimed in except Jignesh and mentors. That is not what would happen on a project that is being effective in governing itself. Julian > On Aug 15, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Harshad Deshmukh <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Roman and Jignesh, > > The website is updated with the said changes. > > http://quickstep.incubator.apache.org/ > > > On 08/15/2016 11:20 AM, J Patel wrote: >> I'm on vacation - can someone take care of the website? Else, I'll do it on >> Thursday. >> >> I believe we have Jira tickets for all the main features. I'll check when >> I'm back. Agreed would be good to have Jira tickets for visibility to the >> community. >> >> On a related note to perhaps clear some misconception: Some of the changes >> come around when someone sees a problem and is inspired to fix it. I think >> JQs plan visualization is a good example - he did it over a few days on his >> own. I love that feature (I think we all do!), and discovered it when the >> PR showed up. He had a great writeup in his PR (IMHO a good model for all >> of us). Agreed if that didn't have a Jira ticket would be good to get in >> the habit of opening one when inspiration strikes for an idea, and close it >> with the final commit. But please do keep such inspiration driven features >> going! I think no one wants to stop doing that. >> >> And I very much would love for existing folks to take the lead like JQ did! >> >> >> On Sunday, August 14, 2016, Roman Shaposhnik <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Quickstep community is coming along fine, but, >>> with my mentor hat on, I still have a few concerns: >>> 1. The Download button needs to be removed from >>> the website until there's a first official release >>> >>> 2. Website has to have an Incubator disclaimer: >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html#disclaimers >>> >>> 3. I see tons of GitHub commits and yet I see pretty much >>> no dev@ list or JIRA traffic. Why is this code being commited? >>> Where is it discussed? This all is a mystery to me and I suspect >>> anybody else who's not on-site with those who commit. >>> >>> I'd like to ask that the community quickly takes care of #1 and #2 >>> and comes up with an explanation for #3 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Roman. >>> > > -- > Thanks, > Harshad >
