Right, I don't think that any of Artyom's comments are about the issue that Matthias was bringing up, but I do think that's it a real issue.
Sam On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Robby Findler <ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu> wrote: > I don't think those are the things being complained about. I read a > complaint about non-incremental GC, a complaint about DrRacket IO > (which is really quite slow because it uses an editor which is > overkill for a stream of text), possibly a complaint about the FFI > (but maybe there's more there?). And, possibly even hiding in there is > the usual complaint about scrolling. There's lots of work to do. :) > > Robby > > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt > <sa...@cs.indiana.edu> wrote: >> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Matthias Felleisen >> <matth...@ccs.neu.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> > Why does he think "Performance sucks"? >>>> >>>> Because here's the list of things that are slow >>> >>> DrRacket is an operating system running on top of your other OS >>> to make life for Racket developers simple. It was originally developed >>> for beginners, but I eat my own dog food, and I find it good (tm) for >>> every day Racket work. >>> >>> To evaluate performance, run the programs at the command line. Measure >>> there. Compare with other dynamically typed languages and report back >>> what you find. If you still report performance problems, try to be precise. >>> We are proud of Matthew and how far he has pushed Racket's performance on >>> real software, the kind you use on a daily basis, not just minibenchmarks. >> >> I think ultimately that this answer isn't enough. If everyone who >> tries out Racket in the way we suggest comes away with the impression >> that it's really slow, suggestions on the mailing list to measure >> differently won't eliminate the negative first impression, let alone >> for all the people who _don't_ ask about it. >> >> Could we >> - warn people when they use `time` in DrRacket? >> - provide a "performance" mode that runs programs out-of-process, or >> just in another place? >> - something else? >> >> Sam >> _________________________ >> Racket Developers list: >> http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev _________________________ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev