1) I say just do a simple Google Group. 2) I vote no - I'm getting tired of all the Slack orgs. ;) I do think a channel on Cordova though would be appropriate. 3) I say start fresh. :)
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Parashuram N <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have created a new Org called ripple-emulator[1] and forked the Apache Repo > [2]. I have also added the folks who said they wanted to be members in the > organization. If you would like to be invited to the organization, please let > me know and I can add you with your github name. I may have missed some folks > from the previous emails, so if you have not yet received an invitation, > please do send me your github id again. > > Some open questions > > 1. Should we have a mailing list / group ? If yes, where should that be ? > 2. Should we simply create a slack channel on Cordova slack where we could > discuss stuff, or should we create a new slack domain ? > 3. What do we do about existing JIRA issues ? Should we import them to > github, or should we start fresh ? > > > > [1] https://github.com/ripple-emulator > [2] https://github.com/ripple-emulator/incubator-ripple > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ross Gardler [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:48 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: Ken Wallis <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Trademark use after retirement > > Yep you are free to fork the code. It's up to you who you add as committees. > As you say the Apache mark should be removed. > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Parashuram N<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: 12/21/2015 11:33 PM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: Ken Wallis<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Trademark use after retirement > > Hi Ken, > > Thanks a lot for following up on the trademark. I think this message is good, > and we should put it up on the new repository that we create. > > Apache folks, what should be the next steps on this ? We now have the > trademark issue taken care of, and the new project can be in a new Github > repo with this message. > Should I go ahead and do the following > > 1. Fork the existing repo - git://git.apache.org/incubator-ripple.git (need a > name for the new organization. Folks, how about using > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=github.com%2fripple-emulator&data=01%7c01%7cRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7cfe8fe993cc6a4658737d08d30a5f2e4a%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=T34wvVFo1EF7dwfk4wjEMtBK267RPzHHz%2bGBsdMr0WE%3d > ? Note that ripple username is already taken) 2. Add folks who have > expressed interest as owners 3. In the title, remove "Apache Ripple" and now > call it "Ripple". > > I think we should keep the license as Apache License, so I guess we will not > be changing the License file, or headers in the source code. > Is there anything else we should be doing ? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Wallis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:58 AM > To: Parashuram N <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: RE: Trademark use after retirement > > I have received the following formal response from our legal/copyright team: > > > "BlackBerry is not asserting any rights in RIPPLE and makes no > representations or warranties with respect to the name as a trademark." > > > The wording is specifically chosen, and I hope it will suffice for your needs. > > Please let me know if you have any further questions or needs. > > -- > Ken Wallis > Senior Product Manager > Office: +1 (925) 931-6024 > BlackBerry: (415) 860-3980 > [email protected] > BlackBerry Corporation > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Parashuram N [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 10:28 PM > To: Ken Wallis <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: RE: Trademark use after retirement > > Thank you Shane. > > Ken, Thank you for volunteering to help with the trademark for using the name > "Ripple". Is there a way we can be granted a formal permission from > Blackberry to use the name "Ripple" ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shane Curcuru [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 12:24 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: Trademark use after retirement > > (Note mixed private/public lists) > > Please treat Ripple as an Apache trademark until the IPMC formally retires > the podling - i.e. until that vote is completed, meaning that > organizationally the ASF has recognized the podling is retiring. > > Given that there's been ample discussion here within the Ripple community at > Apache, and that some of the members here wish to continue development > elsewhere using the name, the ASF will have no objection to future developers > calling software derived from this project "Ripple". > Don't call it "Apache" obviously, and we would appreciate a footer "based on > the retired Apache Ripple podling" or something similar. I'm also happy if > the IPMC chooses to put a note on whatever archive the ASF hosts for the > retired podling that points to the successor project. > > It looks like Ken elsethread can help confirm that RIM/Blackberry won't have > any problems with this either, so hopefully you'll be all set! > > It's important for the ASF to defend all Apache project and podling > trademarks to ensure that we maintain our reputation for independently > governed projects. This is especially important in some other kinds of > cases, where other companies may try to manipulate our podlings or projects > unfairly. But in cases where the community tries, but just doesn't succeed > at incubation, the ASF has no wishes to get in the way of the community > trying their luck elsewhere. > > Good luck, by the way! > > - Shane > > > Parashuram N wrote on 12/1/15 2:29 PM: > ... >> -----Original Message----- From: Ross Gardler >> [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 >> 10:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Trademark use >> after retirement >> >> As can be seen in recent discussions the Ripple project will be >> retired as an Incubating Apache project. During the discussion the >> status of the Ripple trademark was one question that came up. I >> responded that if anyone wants to use the mark they would need >> permission from whoever owns the mark. In my preliminary evaluation of >> the status of the mark it did not appear that it had been transferred >> to the ASF on entry into the Incubator (which is the usual case). >> >> If anyone in the community wants to reuse this mark you need to >> confirm with [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> that >> the ASF does not own the mark and, once confirmed, approach the >> trademark owner (Blackberry I believe). Under no circumstances should >> anyone use the Ripple name without obtaining permission. >> >> The code, however, can be taken under the Apache License V2 and worked >> on elsewhere if you so desire. >> >> Ross >> > -- =========================================================================== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM Email : [email protected] Blog : www.raymondcamden.com Twitter: raymondcamden
