On 29-12-11 02:16, Peter Firmstone wrote:
Interesting, we could explore different trust models, like pgp's web of
trust, perhaps even using the pgp public key servers. Or perhaps a multi
referral trust model: ask others we trust if they know and trust the new
party. In any case I'd like to avoid the CertificateAuthority model.

I would like to avoid the CertificateAuthority model as well. The PGP introducer model has similarities to the CertificateAuthority model.

So the most basic scenary would be the totally isolated bootstrap of ones own identity, meaning a self signed certificate. The first 'problem' area would be the TLS handshake, which verifies the cert in a X509TrustManager. This trustmanager needs to let through the self signed ceritificates, the default doesn't. Current the trustmanager is jini-system-wide maybe this is something that should be changed into thread / connection / ClientSubject oriented.

One could have the trustmanager offer the unknown certificate for acceptance to the user, in order to allow authentication via external channels.

This would be a better way of exchanging certs, than exchanging them in plaintext communications, because (this need verification) the certs are exchanged end-to-end encrypted, so no identity is exposed to third parties.


Cheers,

Peter.

Simon IJskes - QCG wrote:
Some notes:

* the most basic trust bootstrap is generating a local priv/pub
keypair for your own identity, so without introducer.
* in this case, verification occurs outside the scope of river.
* in order to exchange unknown public keys with TLS, we need a key
collecting X509TrustManager, inserted into river via the
com.sun.jini.jeri.ssl.trustManagerFactoryAlgorithm property.

Comments? Additions?

Gr. Sim




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