@Sim - Fair enough, I’ll refer the questions. First, though I’m going through the archives on legal-discuss@ to see if there’s already been a discussion. As with many things, there seems to be much opinion, but little policy. For example, in http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201305.mbox/%3CED615624-F77B-487F-BA82-F8BD0E50CA46%40gmail.com%3E Sam Ruby says he thinks projects shouldn’t but binaries into svn, however, at the same time I asked the question over on general@incubator.a.o, and it was pointed out that projects like Apache Open Office and Apache Cassandra have many binaries in svn.
At the same time, I’ll mention that I did some experimenting last night with Apache Ivy (http://ant.apache.org/ivy), and it seems almost trivially easy to get dependencies at build time, so long as they’re in Maven Central. I’ll post a patch for the 2.2 branch for people to take a look at (probably on Monday as I’m a little busy in the next few days). It’s about 20 lines added to “build.xml" and about a 20-line “ivy.xml” file. So I wonder, is there a reason we’d want to keep jars in svn if they weren’t strictly necessary? By the way, I realize in re-reading it that my initial comments may have seemed heavy-handed, and I’m sorry about that. I’m really just concerned that consensus seems to be converging (at least in the Incubator, which is often the de-facto policy body) on “no jars in svn, download them at build time”, and we’re not currently doing that. Regards, Greg Trasuk. On Dec 19, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Peter <j...@zeus.net.au> wrote: > No, we can't distribute external binaries either. The binary has to be the > compiled version of the source. > > > ----- Original message ----- >> I dont think the pathnames constitute a whole lot of difference in >> copyright terms. I think this issue revolves around having no binary >> products of anyone in the source distribution (the source release). >> >> I've no opinion yet on if 'tool' jars belong in a binary distribution. >> >> Gr. Simon >> >> On 19-12-13 12:10, Peter wrote: >>> Looking at the last paragraph in Sam's email he goes on to say we can >>> have jar files in svn for build tools etc, but not in our open source >>> product trees. >>> >>> In that case the easiest temporary solution would be to move them >>> into a designated directory outside of our product tree, then we can >>> have ant retrieve them as needed for jenkins tests until we work out >>> a more permanent solution. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> QCG, Software voor het MKB, 071-5890970, http://www.qcg.nl >> Quality Consultancy Group b.v., Leiderdorp, Kvk Den Haag: 28088397 >
