On 18-02-14 08:27, Peter Firmstone wrote:
Well these things are well and good, and yes we have the skunk area
where we can all do our individual things, but we can't develop in trunk
either, due to sensitivity.
We need somewhere we can colloborate on ideas, somewhere developers are
free to work together, where no idea is rejected before it can be
demonstrated, at the moment very few ideas are "good enough" and we're
stuck with a very outdated codebase. We need to have something for the
future, or there simply won't be one.
I see this as a well intended attempt to solve something that is
fundamentally wrong with river at the moment. Only you are trying to
delay the moment where it goes wrong. We can create code, but we still
havent repaired river as it is.
We are trying to please a non existing consumer who doesn't like any
change. This way we will only ever release maintenance revisions.
And this sensitivity, this is really where the problem lies. We have
users, we have delivered very few benefits to them, because of our
sensitivity. So when we stop beeing so sensitive and start changing
things nothing changes for the ones that do not like our changes. But we
will start delivering benefits to others and ourselfs. For the old users
nothing hase changed. Still no new benefits.
We need to modernize river. Otherwise we will be (and are) working for
the past.
Gr. Simon
