I look at this as open source for secure IoT.  The need for security in IoT
has been aptly demonstrated by recent DDOS attaches based on compromised
devices.

I do feel that interop is critical to success here.

Do we have any lurkers from the IoT manufacturing space here?  People or
companies willing to invest time and resources for a secure IOT platform?

Bryan

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, Peter <j...@zeus.net.au> wrote:

> Utilising most of the existing discovery code, we could use ipv6
> multicast, for an exported remote object (service).
>
> Then create a new class called RemoteDiscovery to discover a service
> dynamically, based on a name
>
> So you export a service and it becomes dynamically discoverable.
>
> It's not going to step on any Jini discovery lookup stuff and it's going
> to be easily deployed by new users.
>
> Then once users realise there's more on offer they can take advantage as
> their understanding develops.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter.
>
> Sent from my Samsung device.
>
>   Include original message
> ---- Original message ----
> From: Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org <javascript:;>>
> Sent: 02/11/2016 05:31:26 pm
> To: dev@river.apache.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: River revamp
>
> To put a bit more meat on Peter's condensed list...
>
> I put forward a proposal to sever the ties between River and Jini itself,
> and instead re-focus River to be a a secured network transport, with
> optional discovery. Starting point is of course the JERI
> module and Peter's
> work to secure this transport, but in the longer term look at alternative
> transport formats and eventually bindings to other
> languages, which I think
> will be the major hurdle for long term acceptance (no one is Java-only
> nowadays).
>
> Jini's services, Reggie and so on, carries a lot of negative connotation
> among people who were around back then, and except for where it has been
> adopted, I doubt that there will be any new uptake, so instead of making
> Jini (and its specs) the focal point of River, make it
> to "Examples of what
> River can be used for".
>
> Another example of what can be done with River could eventually include
> connectors for popular platforms, such as Zookeeper, which could open
> avenues for new blood coming to River.
>
> Concrete things; Apache Karaf is also a very small
> community, yet they have
> managed to put together a very exciting website, and I think River
> community could "borrow" a lot of that work, making itself more appealing,
> promoting the new focus. I don't think much coding is needed to get this
> going, but packaging might be "fixed" to make consumption of the core
> functionality as easy as possible, preferably easier than that.
>
> Once that is up-and-running starting the "reach out" to other projects,
> individuals and press releases.
>
>
> I hope that this will inspire some to more action.
>
> Niclas
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Peter Firmstone <
> peter.firmst...@zeus.net.au <javascript:;>
> > wrote:
>
> > A discussion recently ignited on river private
> about revamping the project.
> >
> > For the benefit of the wider developer community can we restate the
> > suggestions here, feel free to reword, correct, reject or
> suggest  It was
> > along the lines of:
> >
> > * Website revamp
> > * Remove Jini focus, with a historical section...
> > * Focus on new security features.
> > * Make getting started simple, with just the bare
> bones basics, Extensible
> > remote invocation with secure serialization.
> > * Services, Javaspaces etc, become examples of what can be done with
> > River, not what River  is.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung device.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
>
>

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