It does have a connection with RIP-30, compact topic can speed up state
recovery.

I add some explanation to illustrate how compact topic work on state
recovery in the doc.

dongeforever <[email protected]> 于2022年2月10日周四 17:59写道:

> What is the relationship between this RIP and RIP-30 ?
>
> If this RIP is based on RIP-30, it is better to attach some description.
>
> If this RIP is independent, it needs to explain the detailed relationship.
>
>
> ze Ni <[email protected]> 于2022年2月10日周四 14:42写道:
>
> > Thanks for your review, and I am glad to add you into shepherds list.
> >
> >
> > Exactly-once involves a larger range, such as when we should
> > submit consumption offset and store state data, and what it's behavior is
> > when RocketMQ-streams recover from crash. This RIP only discusses a part
> of
> > them, to achieve exactly-once how we should store and recover state with
> > RocketMQ.
> >
> > When a message is found from a new shard, RocketMQ-streams load it's
> > corresponding state.When shard removed because of rebalancing,
> > RocketMQ-streams save state to RocketMQ and remove local. When making a
> > checkpoint, firstly save state to RocketMQ, secondly commit state
> > consumption offset, and at last, poll new state into local.
> >
> > When RocketMQ-streams crash between checkpoints, state data in RocketMQ
> > exactly correspond to the last checkpoint, and state consumption offset
> > corresponds to the penultimate checkpoint.
> >
> >
> > That is to say, we can recover state from the last checkpoint when
> > RocketMQ-streams restart,  which is state behavior in exactly-once
> > semantics.
> >
> > As for the complete exact-once implementation, I would like to discuss
> with
> > another RIP.
> >
> > vongosling <[email protected]> 于2022年2月10日周四 08:55写道:
> >
> > > I like IStorage design, good to start. This is a good improvement for
> our
> > > streams architecture. If you need another shepherd, you could count me
> > :-)
> > >
> > > BTW, your design seems to not solve the exactly-once semantic in the
> > > streaming scenario, or say, we miss some detailed comments in the doc?
> > >
> > > 倪泽 <[email protected]> 于2022年2月9日周三 17:38写道:
> > >
> > > > Hi, RocketMQ Community,
> > > >
> > > > First of all, Happy Chinese New Year!
> > > > I want to start a RIP to replace mysql with RocketMQ as state store
> in
> > > > RocketMQ-streams. Base the RocketMQ storage, I will provide a
> > > exactly-once
> > > > supported and efficient state storage scheme.
> > > >
> > > > I have written my proposal and you can click on the link below:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gmwU4rC5wyG07R55jW5oN4GzxHSq8QoFNdoNL61xT0M/edit?usp=sharing
> > > >
> > > > Chinese version:
> > > >
> > > > https://shimo.im/docs/pjDRKHqtdQC9RWCg
> > > >
> > > > If you have any questions or suggestions, please reply to this email
> or
> > > > comment on the proposal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Nize
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards :-)
> > >
> >
>

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