I agree that it's a powerful feature, but you have been using Roller since the beginning and have worked on the software, so you are a true power user and therefore you know how the decorators are supposed to work. To most users, especially users with little technical aptitude, the decorators are just confusing and so the reason for getting rid of them is more about usability than anything else.

Their replacement is just using calls to #includeTemplate(), which sounds like what you mean by "include header/footer/menu mechanism." This is the approach that basically all of our users on BSC have naturally gravitated towards using and I think it works fine and isn't that hard to manage, so I think this is a big deal.

-- Allen


Matt Raible wrote:
I like decorators and have found them useful for my site for the last
couple of years. I'm assuming there will be a similar feature if
they're eliminated? I hope I don't have to revert to using some
include header/footer/menu mechanism.

Matt

On 7/5/07, Elias Torres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+1

Dave wrote:
> +1 on killing decorators (and finishing 4.0 work) - Dave
>
>
> On 7/5/07, Allen Gilliland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Anyone else have comments on this? I am trying to finish up 4.0 work so
>> I'd like to get this resolved in the next day or two.
>>
>> -- Allen
>>
>>
>> Dave Levy wrote:
>> > I have no idea what these are; it seems that not all themes use them.
>> >
>> > I agree with you're assertions and conclusions
>> >
>> > Allen Gilliland wrote:
>> >> I have a couple gotchas happening in the theme code related to
>> >> decorators and in order to fix them I need to have a better idea of
>> >> what we want to do with the decorator templates long term.
>> >>
>> >> My opinion is that we should be EOLing them and trying to phase them >> >> out. IMO the decorator stuff is confusing for users and at the end of
>> >> the day the same thing can be accomplished using #includeTemplate()
>> >> calls which are easier for users to understand.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone else have strong opinions about this?
>> >>
>> >> If we want to keep decorators around then we are going to have to
>> >> provide better support for them, meaning a way to enable/disable
>> >> decorating of templates via the UI as well as the ability to specify >> >> templates that should be decorated in theme descriptors. Up until now
>> >> the decorators have largely been an under the hood feature (a.k.a a
>> >> hack) that wasn't really publicized much and we've never offered users
>> >> any real control over the decorating process.  So deprecating it
>> >> should be quite safe.
>> >>
>> >> -- Allen
>> >
>>
>



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