On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM, shelan Perera <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Nicolas Muller <[email protected]
>> I am working too about a mobile website with roller. These are my ideas!
>>
>> 1) Create a group of news pages dedicated for mobile into an existing blog.
>> It is powerful roller function to be able to create pages (drupal can do it,
>> wordpress not). Associated these pages with a new domain (m.mydomain.comfor
>> example). You could do create a new blog and display information through 
>> planet. It
>> is possible but a little hard to do

Interesting idea. Do I understand you correctly? Instead of creating a
mobile theme for each blog, you propose to create an aggregation of
all blogs on the site using Roller's built-in planet aggregator?

That is not a bad idea, but I would still like to see Roller have the
ability to provide a separate mobile theme for each blog.


>> 2) Use DetectMobileBrowser.com from this tutorial to switch from your
>> normal site to the mobile one.

That appears to be a client-side technology, useful for directing a
web browser to the mobile version of a weblog. It's available for use
under public domain license, so we could consider using it in Roller.


>> 3) USE JQUERY MOBILE :) Forget other libraries.
>> It is easy easy in one hour with doc to have a blog running with mobile
>> templates thank to jqueymobile

JQuery does rock, but I'd like theme authors to be able to use
whatever JavaScript libraries they want -- and not be forced to use
JQuery. However, I believe Shelan plans to create at least one mobile
theme for Roller and be could choose to use JQuery.


>> Nota bene : A major point will be to have a way to detect mobile from vm
>> template.
>> In order to reduce page weight. "Display:none" with css is not good for
>> mobile design.
>> It is not necessary to load hidden data. User experience is wrong with it.
>> Another idea would be to add this info into theme.xml
>>
>> I will publish a code source to have this information into vm template. I
>> have to do it

Yes, I agree. We want templates to be able to detect need for mobile
pages, on the server side, and that is different from what
DetectMobileBrowser.com because it works on the client side.


> Thanks for the ideas and feedback.After a bit of searching i am trying to
> use WURLF[1] to assist in mobile detection.There are two things which become
> handy in using this.
>
> 1) Identifying the device
>
> 2) Identifying the device capability.
>
> At present i am evaluating its reliability and functionalities.I thinkat the
> filtering stage we can get the user request and let the WURLF to parse it
> and get the device.(As convenient as wurfl.getDeviceForRequest(request)).So
> we can decide the rendering after that according to user preference.( Unless
> user preferred a desktop or full theme always.)
>
> I think we can fine tune it more since WURLF can give the device
> capabilities.So it we may have to scale down the rendering for some devices
> which do not have some requirements.
>
> [1]http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/

Unfortunately, WURFL is released under a GPL license and Apache
projects are not allowed [1] to depend on or ship GPL code. I'm not
sure we need something as powerful as WURLF... how much do we need to
know about the device?

- Dave

[1] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x

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