On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Glen Mazza <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Team, having moved about half of the YUI stuff from YUI2 to YUI3, I can
> say that the coding is considerably cleaner, it's a nice simpler API with
> fewer imports needed.  However, it's really designed for non-SSL CDN use as
> it significantly bloats the roller-ui folder (
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/roller/trunk/app/src/main/
> webapp/roller-ui/yui3/), as it uses a separate folder for each JS file
> instead of nicely allowing us to store them all in one folder.
>  Unfortunately, as mentioned below, Yahoo's CDN doesn't support SSL,
> risking "Warning! non-secure items being accessed" browser popups if the
> Roller instance is on HTTPS and we switch to CDN use to keep the Roller WAR
> free of all these folders.  I've asked a question about this on Stack
> Overflow (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24713896/efficient-
> way-to-incorporate-yui3-into-a-java-web-application), maybe there are
> ways to simplify embedding YUI3 that I've missed.
>
> YUI 2 is roughly 3.9MB is size, the whole YUI 3 is 34MB and 374 folders.
>  Removing the "coverage" (testing scripts) and "debug" scripts gets it down
> to 10MB, probably 4MB if we just keep the "min" files.  I used the YUI
> configurator (https://yuilibrary.com/yui/configurator/) to just determine
> the 75 or so folders that we need (as of now) to just import those into our
> code.  All this folder complexity results in a benefit in our JSPs,
> generally, unlike YUI2, for YUI3, you need only one script reference
> (sometimes a few more CSS ones), it will slurp in the others that it needs:
>
> <script type="text/javascript" src="<s:url 
> value='/roller-ui/yui3/yui/yui-min.js'
> />"/>  (for CDN use:<scriptsrc="http://yui.yahooapis.com/3.17.2/build/
> yui/yui-min.js"/>).
>
> If you need to debug your scripts (say, within Firebug) you can just
> change to the CDN debugging JS:
> <scriptsrc="http://yui.yahooapis.com/3.17.2/build/yui/yui-debug.js
> "></script>
>

Sounds like a pain. I can't remember what we had to do to get YUI working
before. I'm pretty sure we just included the YUI2 components that we needed
and not the whole thing.


>
> Still, I think JQuery should be our first choice when it does what we
> want.  It has an SSL-supporting CDN, but even if we didn't need it it takes
> up far fewer files.  For example, the JQuery popup calendar is just one
> file (besides images), we add what we need (http://jqueryui.com/download/)
> and it creates a custom JS for us, nicely sitting here: (
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/roller/trunk/app/src/main/
> webapp/roller-ui/scripts/).
>

I agree. JQuery works great and seems to have a much bigger community & eco
system (possible evidence of that
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=jquery,yui,dojo,mootools,scriptaculous
).


What I have left to convert is the Media File Chooser popups on the Media
> File View and Edit JSPs.  There's one more YUI2 element, the green "+" menu
> button present on each image in MediaFileView.jsp, which allows users to
> create a blog entry or a podcast from the Media File View page using the
> image instead of from the standard EntryAdd.jsp page.  However, the menu
> button is no longer present in YUI3 (http://yuilibrary.com/yui/
> docs/node-menunav/) and should probably be switched over to its JQueryUI
> equivalent (http://jqueryui.com/button/).  In the interests of getting
> rid of YUI2, though, I'd like to get rid of this button entirely now
> (whether or not it ever gets replaced with something from JQueryUI).
>  People already have a nearly identical media file image chooser to embed
> images on the EntryEdit/EntryAdd JSPs, so it's redundant allowing them to
> create blog articles from the Media File View tab as well (and multiple
> access paths creates more code complexity, risk of security holes, user
> training issues, etc.)  The only thing that would be lost right now is a
> one-click ability to create a podcast (pretty rare event anyway), users
> would need to select the podcast from the image chooser on the Entry Edit
> page and copy it to the EnclosureURL field.  Still, IMO that one-click
> ability should be moved to the Image Chooser view on the Entry Add/Edit
> pages anyway.  Thoughts?
>

That sounds reasonable.

Only other thought is this: don't kill yourself on this task, we don't have
to switch to YUI3 or eliminate YUI for the Roller 5.1 release. It would be
nice, but I don't think it is a must have.

- Dave

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