Hi Dave,

I'm still wondering, even if we can see and reuse the CSS/JS/HTML, do we have 
the rights to replicate use of that look-and-feel elsewhere?  I don't 
understand who owns the creative content.

Thoughts?
-Alex

From: Dave Fisher <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 10:50 AM
To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: Apache Royale static web site

Hi Alex,

On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Alex Harui 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

There is something I don't think I understand.  AIUI, at some point, we
will want the Apache Royale site to include actual Royale applications,
right?  And I would think we would want the styling of those applications
to be consistent with the rest of the site.  So I'm not clear how we will
be able to implement the styling/theme of these Royale applications if we
don't have rights to the styling.  I don't understand how WP themes and
commercial licensing works if we want to replicate that user experience
outside of WP.

We need to examine the static export of the CSS and HTML.


If we can use those visuals outside of WP, then why must we continue to
use WP to generate the site?  I would hope the theme would be implemented
as CSS and some templates we could use without WP.

We should be able to adapt. Site building in the CMS can get complex if needed. 
For OpenOffice.org<http://OpenOffice.org> we use the legacy html pulling out 
the title and content body and place it within a markdown template.


Also, if someone wants to patch the site, they can't just offer a patch of
the HTML right?  They would need to figure out where in WP it comes from?
Is there a patch process for WP content?

Possibly.


Sorry if there is some basic thing I am missing.

It will get complex first as we figure out how to embed and then it will get 
simplified as we find the best way.

Regards,
Dave



Thanks,
-Alex

On 10/24/17, 10:19 AM, "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
on behalf of Carlos
Rovira" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Thanks Dave,

I'll write an email to trademarks to start with the process. I think is
better to migrate to WP.com<http://WP.com> before continue working on content 
so we can
detect whatever issue we could get.

Thanks!

Carlos



2017-10-24 18:56 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:

Hi Carlos,

On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Carlos Rovira 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:

Hi,

just let you know that I tried to create an static version of the
preview
site with success. I use this plugin :

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres
s.org<http://s.org/>%2Fplugins%2Fsimply-static%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb448363ee5984b3b3e0f
08d51b0373f8%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636444624020033
702&sdata=RPTFT7Qq0bq1AKmh1fqnLuMJ0hWIpnrieARat1lz2bk%3D&reserved=0

and we can generate all static content with relative or absolute urls.
The
final preview site in static is 134mb

Another thing I was searching was to use a WP to Jekyll exporter but
this
is not what I wanted since it seems Jekyll is all about markdown and
we
want a full html site with all the eye candy JS+CSS resources. In the
end,
and thinking more about it, is not what we want since although the
site
would be exported ok, we don't want to upload it to the GitHub pages
like
we discusses in the other thread due to expose part of the code of a
commercial wp theme.

So, the workflow we can use is: Use the WP backend to enter new
content
and
modify existing want with ease (this is important is we want people
contributing here). Next, with all changes done, generate a static
version
and replace the entire site with a fresh generated static site at
royale.apache.org<http://royale.apache.org/>. and as well route the more 
friendly domain to this
if
board is ok with that.

Yes! External domain royalysdk.org<http://royalysdk.org/> is redirected to 
royale.apache.org<http://royale.apache.org/> as
discussed.


We can check with apache board or trademarks what they propose about
to
create a Wordpress.com<http://wordpress.com/> account managed by Apache and 
migrate from my
server
to that account, and all this stuff from there, since if I remember
some
people said that would be more ok with Apache.I'd end removing my temp
subdomain after this.

The advantage of using the Wordpress.com<http://wordpress.com/> location is 
twofold:

(1) Wordpress keeps security up to date.
(2) If something happens to you or your company then we have better
access.

I suspect though that with the status export method this will not be as
great a concern.


What do you think? Can I move this with the people we were talking
some
weeks ago?

Either you or I can email Trademarks with the plan.

We can then discuss the redirection with Infrastructure and get the site
checked in.

Regards,
Dave


Let me know in order to start making the next steps

Thanks


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