I can say at this point that I really like idea with swappable view. In
most cases view is an ActionScript class where we may have more possibility
to do things. When I was looking last time into the checkbox it for sure
need to more love, some part of the logic should be moved to the View.

Piotr

2017-10-31 20:50 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <[email protected]>:

> Ugh,  Something has gone bad in the Basic components.  Things like
> CheckBox and RadioButton should be creating simple <input type="check"/>
> and <input type='radio' /> elements.
>
> The ability to style everything belongs in a different set of components.
> Basic is supposed to generate the simplest tree of HTMLElements even if
> they can't be fully styles.  That's so someone can do the equivalent of
> just using bare bones <input> elements.
>
> What is currently in Basic CheckBox and RadioButton might be right for
> creating fully styleable components, or some other composition of
> HTMLElements might be better.  Carlos, I think that's up to you to decide.
>
> An alternative approach is to have the JS implementations of CheckBox and
> RadioButton have views and the views could create the HTMLElements.  That
> seems a bit heavy for the simple case of someone who just wants to use
> <input type="check" in an app, but that is a possibility.
>
> It sounds like you are looking for a way to manipulate SVG at runtime.  It
> is fine to have "static SVG" which is a block of SVG with that cannot be
> modified and thus uses percentages and absolute values as best it can.
> Then we probably want to have a way to create "dynamic" skins with run
> code to generate or manipulate SVG.  Those will be heavier, but that's
> PAYG.  Should we try to allow SVG tags in MXML files?  Then you could
> write code in an fx:Script block around your SVG tags and manipulate the
> SVG?
>
> So IMO first, we should look into reverting Basic back to single simple
> HTMLElements where possible, then decide whether we want to have swappable
> views or a new skinnable component set, then build out that component set
> and see what code it takes to get it to look the way we want it.  And then
> we'll know what code is needed and can plan out how to encapsulate and
> re-use that code.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
> On 10/31/17, 11:23 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Hi Carlos,
> >
> >I think you should start looking into the Basic module and later make an
> >upgrades to Express once you have all components visually created. I would
> >not think on that stage about how we implement them rather look how they
> >look like currently.
> >
> >1) Create small app or run example with that component from our
> >repository.
> >2) Make it visually with theme
> >3) Show on the dev list - once we agree on all of them we can decide how
> >to
> >apply those styles.
> >
> >My 2 cents. :) Piotr
> >
> >
> >2017-10-31 19:12 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm trying to find a valid workflow to start working in two initial
> >>faces
> >> for Royale components.
> >>
> >> I'm talking about to generate some kind of UI sheet with all controls
> >>and a
> >> basic wireframe style and another one that would be what more people
> >>will
> >> be using as default in Royale. From here, will be more easy to other
> >>guys
> >> to change styles. We could event create a Royale Theme editor in a near
> >> future.
> >>
> >> So, to start working on this I need a design tool, and in this case, I
> >> think that one is Sketch App.
> >>
> >> So I can create a design in Sketch with all controls (Button, TextInput,
> >> CheckBox, Panel,...)
> >>
> >> From here, I can generate CSS and SVG code
> >>
> >> For example the code of this simple button
> >>(https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fsnag.gy
> >>%2FAm2fRX.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc23665e118fc4a7fed4c08d5208c
> 8494%7Cfa7b1b
> >>5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636450710247213906&
> sdata=Z4b6dMq%2Br
> >>UmSSxpGYNjgKl0nkRkIlV%2FbQIDLVUIvo6E%3D&reserved=0)
> >> that
> >> I did quickly is:
> >>
> >> CSS
> >>
> >> /* Background: */
> >> background: #D8D8D8;
> >> border: 1px solid #979797;
> >> border-radius: 3px;
> >>
> >> /* TextField: */
> >> font-family: HelveticaNeue;
> >> font-size: 12px;
> >> color: #646D7A;
> >>
> >> (CSS is almost all usable)
> >>
> >> And SVG
> >>
> >> <svg width="150px" height="40px" viewBox="0 0 150 40" version="1.1"
> >>xmlns="
> >>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.or
> >>g%2F2000%2Fsvg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc23665e118fc4a7fed4c08d5208c
> 8494%7Cfa7b1
> >>b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636450710247213906&
> sdata=cWLJ2jj9Ih
> >>cGnjAB8GEtEIdc3ZZO2OSAsgzPNEVrUzE%3D&reserved=0"
> >>xmlns:xlink="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.
> com/?url=http%3A%2
> >>F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F1999%2Fxlink&data=02%7C01%7C%
> 7Cc23665e118fc4a7fed4c08d52
> >>08c8494%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> 7C636450710247213906&s
> >>data=sgNtytSumzad%2BraDA6NoITbm6XqJJx6yHQudjzhpm6Y%3D&reserved=0">
> >>     <!-- Generator: Sketch 47.1 (45422) -
> >>
> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bohem
> >>iancoding.com%2Fsketch&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc23665e118fc4a7fed4c08d5208c
> 8494
> >>%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%
> 7C636450710247213906&sdata=dE
> >>oGVBONBD6Z1XMTjYcpEc7gq5UqtS8BziB0I3f9qSs%3D&reserved=0 -->
> >>     <desc>Created with Sketch.</desc>
> >>     <defs>
> >>         <rect id="path-1" x="0" y="0" width="150" height="40"
> >> rx="3"></rect>
> >>     </defs>
> >>     <g id="Page-1" stroke="none" stroke-width="1" fill="none"
> >> fill-rule="evenodd">
> >>         <g id="Royale" transform="translate(-58.000000, -49.000000)">
> >>             <g id="Button" transform="translate(58.000000, 49.000000)">
> >>                 <g id="Background">
> >>                     <use fill="#D8D8D8" fill-rule="evenodd"
> >> xlink:href="#path-1"></use>
> >>                     <rect stroke="#979797" stroke-width="1" x="0.5"
> >>y="0.5"
> >> width="149" height="39" rx="3"></rect>
> >>                 </g>
> >>                 <text id="TextField" font-family="HelveticaNeue,
> >>Helvetica
> >> Neue" font-size="12" font-weight="normal" fill="#646D7A">
> >>                     <tspan x="57" y="25">Button</tspan>
> >>                 </text>
> >>             </g>
> >>         </g>
> >>     </g>
> >> </svg>
> >>
> >> (SVG could be a base, but it needs to be removed absolute values and
> >>even
> >> some static parts to be usable)
> >>
> >> I'd like to create a Button "playground" app with a button and some
> >> controls that allow us to change how the button looks (colors, strokes,
> >> round corners, font face, font weight,....)
> >>
> >> In the end this would be the starting point of a playground app for all
> >> Royale controls
> >>
> >> Finaly this would be very useful if we can get the generated code for
> >>that
> >> particular styles and we could apply easily to any app, so change a
> >>"theme"
> >> will be quick and easy. Important: This will only work with our Royale
> >> components (Express mainly, and maybe Basic?, but not MDL, CreateJS, or
> >> others)
> >>
> >> I'm as well interested in how we could integrate that "view" in some
> >> component in order to easy replace visuals for a concrete component. For
> >> example, in the button above will be
> >>
> >> * we'll be making a skin part with SVG code, so we could pass values to
> >>the
> >> skin (for example colors, text button, width,...)
> >> * if not using skins, how can we pass data from the component to the svg
> >> part? (for example colors, text button, width,...)
> >>
> >> To progress with this effort, I think I could start doing only two
> >> controls, and then as we have all considerations in place progress
> >>through
> >> the rest.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >>
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> >
> >
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