Thanks for the explanation. I think I see where the disconnect is now.
Here is what I based my decision on:
The artifact I used [1] is based on the author's own earlier work available
at [2]
In the Summary > Permission section of [2] it says: " Public domain; use
for any purpose."
I am not creating a derivative work based on the svg, I am merely copying
the map data. As such, map data itself originated from the US government
data which cannot be copyrighted [3]
Finally, as per ASF Legal [4], we are allowed to use works included in the
public domain in Apache Products. Here is the relevant details:
==================================
A work should be treated as being in the public domain when one of the
following applies:
- the work is covered by
- the Creative Commons Public Domain Mark
<http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/>, or
- a suitable dedication (to the public domain) by the authors; or
- clear evidence exists that US copyright for the work
- has expired, or
- cannot be claimed.
==================================
Given that the author of the SVG has placed it under public domain and the
fact that US copyright for the work cannot be claimed, it is okay for us to
use this map data in our product.
Thanks,
Om
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blank_US_Map_(states_only).svg
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Electoral_map_2004-2008.svg
[3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Derivative_works#What_is_a_derivative_work.3F
[4]
https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#can-works-placed-in-the-public-domain-be-included-in-apache-products
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 1:04 AM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The issue is like this:
>
> CC-BY 3.0 is considered Category B which can be included in binary
> (unmodified) form.[1] Including the paths of the SVG in MapCoords is a
> questionable use of Category B and we would need approval from legal to use
> it like that.
>
> We have three options:
> 1. We can ask legal if it’s OK.
> 2. We can pull the example from the Apache repo and put it somewhere else.
> 3. We can switch to a public domain svg such as the one Alex linked to.
>
> Harbs
>
> [1]https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b <
> https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b>
>
> > On Mar 5, 2018, at 10:33 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Again, please explain what issue you see.
> >
> > I spent a lot of time on this. I dont feel like redoing all the work
> > without proper justification.
> >
> > You are welcome to rework this if you think it is necessary.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> >
> > On Mar 5, 2018 12:15 AM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Om,
> >
> > Way back in
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/70fd5fa65f60ed35a4d2097c8e2dab
> 19320b6b
> > 549b3f87894789dc27@%3Cdev.royale.apache.org%3E
> > I suggested using
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blank_US_map_borders.svg
> >
> > Do you have time to switch us over that instead? I think that will end
> > this controversy. I suppose I can do it if you don't have time.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Alex
> >
> > On 3/4/18, 11:11 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> Muppirala"
> > <omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Justin,
> >>
> >> I have done the necessary due diligence on this issue. I think this
> issue
> >> has been taken care of as per legal requirements.
> >> If you think there are issues, please discuss this with the Legal PMC.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Om
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 11:04 PM, Justin Mclean <
> jus...@classsoftware.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>> What is the issue you are seeing? Please describe in detail.
> >>>
> >>> The Royale license currently states:
> >>>
> >>> The map coordinates in examples/native/USStatesMap/src/MapCoords.as
> >>> were placed into the Public Domain by its author. See:
> >>>
> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fcommons.
> >>> wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3ABlank_US_Map_(states_only).
> svg&data=02%7C01
> >>> %7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C75a703c1aa6d4b2eba1f08d58268
> 7b6d%7Cfa7b1b5a7b3443
> >>> 8794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636558307660165124&sdata=
> lqqrGtWpdwrKUgXp5%2
> >>> FLIa5SSpqqvQVY1Ua79Ua2QTVY%3D&reserved=0
> >>>
> >>> If you look at that URL [1] you see that the svg file is licensed under
> >>> GNU Free Documentation License and the Creative Commons
> >>> Attribution-Share
> >>> Alike 3.0 Unported license.
> >>>
> >>> GNU Free Documentation License is uncategorised (but probably Category
> >>> X
> >>> from a quick look), for CC-SA see [2], also note that the .as file
> would
> >>> probably considered a modified version of the .svg one, also note the
> >>> CC-SA
> >>> license conditions.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Justin
> >>>
> >>> 1.
> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fcommons.
> >>> wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3ABlank_US_Map_(states_only).
> svg&data=02%7C01
> >>> %7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C75a703c1aa6d4b2eba1f08d58268
> 7b6d%7Cfa7b1b5a7b3443
> >>> 8794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636558307660165124&sdata=
> lqqrGtWpdwrKUgXp5%2
> >>> FLIa5SSpqqvQVY1Ua79Ua2QTVY%3D&reserved=0
> >>> 2.
> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apac
> >>> he.org%2Flegal%2Fresolved.html%23cc-sa&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%
> 40adobe.com%
> >>> 7C75a703c1aa6d4b2eba1f08d582687b6d%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de
> cee1%7C0
> >>> %7C0%7C636558307660165124&sdata=3rVWluxig8qzrVF3HTl4%
> 2B2UESlzUmXEq1Lzuw2t
> >>> WyI8%3D&reserved=0
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
