As @Harbs says, if we had a channel, it would only be available to people
with an Apache email address, so it can't be a support channel or a way of
easing new folks into the project. If we used it, it would be for exploring
ideas, hammering out misunderstandings, testing positioning, co-writing
slogans and other such stuff.

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 5:54 PM Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone with an apache.org <http://apache.org/> email address can join the
> https://the-asf.slack.com/ <https://the-asf.slack.com/> Slack group.
>
> I’m not sure about non-committers. It’s definitely not the place to
> discuss things that belong on the list and I don’t think it’s a good place
> for additional support channels.
>
> It might be useful for real-time collaboration on getting things done. For
> that, we should add a royale channel.
>
> I can go either way on that. I already use Slack for other things, so it’s
> not a big deal for me to add another channel.
>
> Harbs
>
> > On Dec 8, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > if you open a Slack channel in The-ASF Slack try to call it "Apache
> Royale"
> > or the way it should be to make it more official.
> > Then post here so we can add to it, and finally I can post it on website
> > and Social media so people know about it.
> > We just need to let people clear that is a help channel and maybe
> relevant
> > people on the community will be not there (disclaimer)
> > and that every thing that should be discussed to make it happen in the
> > project need to be posted in @dev list
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > El dom., 8 dic. 2019 a las 13:51, Andrew Wetmore (<cottag...@gmail.com>)
> > escribió:
> >
> >> Hi, Alex:
> >>
> >> I should clarify that I am "Slack-curious" in relation to Royale. I
> needed
> >> to discuss some things with an ASF staffer and he said that he did not
> see
> >> me on the ASF Slack workspace, and asked how come. To that point, I had
> not
> >> known there WAS such a workspace. That made me curious about whether it
> was
> >> a resource Royale might consider using in some situations.
> >>
> >> There are several Royale email threads where the conversations would
> have
> >> been shorter, clearer, and possibly more productive if we had carried
> them
> >> out in real-time, rather than firing increasingly-exasperated email
> >> messages back and forth; but I don't think anyone can tell IN ADVANCE
> which
> >> question is going to generate a wrangle by email that might be avoided
> in a
> >> near-live discussion.
> >>
> >> I find it easier to search a Slack thread for a keyword than to do the
> same
> >> thing across all the Royale-related emails in which it might have
> appeared,
> >> and I know I have mislaid valuable Royale-related information by not
> >> extracting it from the email thread when I saw it, rather than
> presuming I
> >> could find it again. This may be mainly due to my own failure to curate
> the
> >> information that I personally need, and others may not experience this
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> Slack channels within the workspace are free, so I may set one up for
> >> Royale to have it ready against the time when it might be useful. If I
> do,
> >> I will mention its name (in an email haha) so others on dev will know
> it is
> >> there.
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 4:02 AM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I agree that Stack Overflow solves a different problem that Slack does
> >> for
> >>> other projects.
> >>>
> >>> Andrew, if you are still interested in Slack, can you think of a couple
> >> of
> >>> Royale conversations from any of our mailing lists/forums/whatever
> that
> >>> you think would have worked better on Slack?  I suppose that some
> editing
> >>> of the documentation/website would be better done on IRC since it isn't
> >>> super important to most of the subscribers to dev@, but you can
> >> certainly
> >>> ask the few other people you are working with to choose a chat-app on
> an
> >>> ad-hoc basis for that one discussion if it isn't going to result in
> some
> >>> decision or if the decision will be proposed on dev@ after the chat
> >> wraps
> >>> up.
> >>>
> >>> IIRC, the projects I've heard that are using Slack at the ASF have a
> set
> >>> of paid committers that work at the same time on interrelated stuff.
> >>> Certain teams within Adobe use Slack but I don't since I don't
> >> collaborate
> >>> with other Adobe engineers.  For the most part, I don't need to be
> >> plugged
> >>> into any team effort on Royale most of the time.  I'm not sure there
> are
> >>> many committers who work on framework code every day.
> >>>
> >>> My 2 cents,
> >>> -Alex
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Andrew Wetmore
> >>
> >> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
>

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Andrew Wetmore

http://cottage14.blogspot.com/

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