I think there is definitely a need to be able to avoid source-maps as well. In the project I am currently working on, it is currently loading around 40Mb or javascript in debug mode. If this was all in one single file I think it would be fine, but because it is loading 4300 individual files, it can take longer than 90 seconds to load even when using Charles with map-local (this is fast because it is intercepts the http request and instead serves local files directly instead of via remote loading), but it still has the browser restrictions on concurrent loads. In this case, the value of source maps is lower than the need to be able to iterate faster over compile-reload-test-debug workflow, which is slowed down in each case if the browser also has to load sourcemaps for the js files. If source maps are being loaded it really ramps up the time taken to compile-reload-test-debug in this case. perhaps if the sourcemaps are being loaded from a different domain, it would be ok, because the concurrency restrictions are domain-based iirc. If that suggestion is viable (I don't know what restrictions there are on source-map locations), then it could be interesting for sure. I think that Chrome reserves 6 for the current domain and up to 4 for alternate domains in terms of concurrency, but I might be wrong, I did not spend time looking for an authoritative source.
More generally, there are some advantages with everything being split into individual js files in the debug build, but there are also disadvantages when there are large volumes of them. It would be solved I think if there was an option to generate a single monolithic file in debug mode for those that prefer this. I hope that might be an option at some point, but I don't know how that could work with sourcemapping (if there is a way, I expect it might be tricky). Unfortunately I don't have time right now to explore these things, but I mainly just wanted to point out that that source-maps by default (even if the attempt to load is a 'try and fail/ignore') is not what people will always want, particularly if they are affecting the concurrent request limits that the browser has with large debug file file-sets. On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 8:44 AM Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Yes, I'm trying to figure what's the best to do so we all can get a better > debugging experience out of the box. > In this feature I think Josh and you has much more to say than me (at > least), so any strategy would be greatly appreciated, and if we can add it > before releasing 0.9.8 even better :) > > So please, go ahead. If you all has some proposal, and want me to add, post > instructions and I can do it. > > thanks > > > El vie, 20 nov 2020 a las 20:43, Christofer Dutz (< > christofer.d...@c-ware.de>) > escribió: > > > Hi all, > > > > just a question (hope it's not silly) > > But as we're planning on releasing soon ... would it be possible to set > > the url for this to an url including the release version on the > > royale.apache.org website? This way anyone should be able to debug. > > Currently it's always looking for a file path on the cui server. > > > > Chris > > > > > > Am 20.11.20, 20:06 schrieb "Josh Tynjala" <joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev>: > > > > Yes, that should allow users compiling with an SDK to debug the > > framework > > source files in the SDK. > > > > For Maven, I'm not really sure what to do because there usually isn't > > any > > original source code available without an SDK, so any suggestions are > > welcome. > > > > -- > > Josh Tynjala > > Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev> > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 10:33 AM Carlos Rovira < > > carlosrov...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Josh, > > > > > > reaching to this now too. > > > > > > One of the things I'd like to do, if others are ok with it is to > > restore > > > the source maps in royale libs (Core, Basic, Jewel,...) by default. > > We > > > removed due to paths related to CI server which made source maps > not > > usable > > > at all. We can configure it properly for user consumption right? So > > in > > > order to propose (opening another thread when we have a clear > > proposal), if > > > we add to (let's say Jewel): > > > > > > --source-map=true > > --source-map-source-root=/frameworks/projects/Jewel/ > > > > > > (and of course to Core, Basic, and so on...) > > > > > > people will be able to use debugging in a downloaded nightly build > or > > > release (thinking in forthcoming 0.9.8)? > > > > > > I'm also interested (clearly) on how to make this work with Maven > > too, if > > > we need to add Chris to this discussion I can ping him to put focus > > on > > > this. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > El jue, 29 oct 2020 a las 21:04, Josh Tynjala (< > > joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev > > > >) > > > escribió: > > > > > > > The source-map-source-root compiler option has two potential > > use-cases. > > > > > > > > 1) A user compiling an application can use it to override where > the > > > > original .as/.mxml source files should be found when debugging. > For > > > > instance, they might want to deploy the source files to their > > server. Or > > > > they might compile on one machine, but debug on another where the > > source > > > > files are in a different location. > > > > > > > > 2) The Royale framework developers can use it to set a consistent > > > > sourceRoot in the source maps added to .swc files. This will help > > with > > > > reproducible builds because the default behavior (without > > > > source-path-source-root) results in a different sourceRoot path > on > > > > different machines. > > > > > > > > So, when we build a library like JewelJS, we might set these > > options: > > > > > > > > --source-map=true > > --source-map-source-root=/frameworks/projects/Jewel/ > > > > > > > > The generated source map will have this: > > > > > > > > "sourceRoot": "/frameworks/projects/Jewel/" > > > > > > > > This is not a valid path, but it's consistent. We can do some > > interesting > > > > things with this path to make it valid, though. > > > > > > > > I should probably mention another improvement that I made. When > > compiling > > > > an application, the compiler now checks the value of sourceRoot > > when a > > > > source map is copied out of .swc file. If the sourceRoot path > > appears to > > > > point to one of the projects inside the Royale SDK, the path is > > rewritten > > > > to point to the local SDK on the user's computer. Basically, it > > checks if > > > > the path contains either "/frameworks/js/projects/" or > > > > "/frameworks/projects/" to know if it's an SDK path or not. This > > allows > > > > developers to add breakpoints to source files from their local > > SDK, even > > > if > > > > that SDK was built on a different computer (like the CI server). > > > > > > > > Using our example above, if the user installed the Royale SDK to > > > > C:/SDKs/royale-0.9.8/, the compiler will automatically update the > > > > sourceRoot for Jewel source maps like this: > > > > > > > > "sourceRoot": > > "file:///C:/SDKs/royale-0.9.8/frameworks/projects/Jewel/" > > > > > > > > This works really nicely with the command line compiler and in > > IDEs that > > > > build with a standard SDK. I'm not sure how well it will work > with > > Maven, > > > > which doesn't actually use an SDK. I have ideas for that, if > > needed. > > > > > > > > I should add that I would be okay if we make the magic string > > something > > > > other than "/frameworks/js/projects/" or "/frameworks/projects/". > > For > > > > instance, we might look for "${royalelib}" instead, which is a > > token that > > > > we support elsewhere. I am open to discussing that, if anyone > > thinks it > > > > matters. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Josh Tynjala > > > > Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 3:57 AM Carlos Rovira < > > carlosrov...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Josh, > > > > > > > > > > many thanks for the addition. I think this was very needed. I > > have some > > > > > questions to understand it all better: > > > > > > > > > > 1.- in order to provide royale libraries with usable debugging > > > > information > > > > > could configure all our libs to use "source-map" and the new > > > > > "source-map-source-root" to build in CI server? In that case > how > > should > > > > we > > > > > configure them? > > > > > > > > > > 2.- can we use in our local machines the same config, or do we > > need to > > > > > change them? (it would be good if we could we remain unchanged) > > > > > > > > > > If you can put some examples with let's say Core or Basic, it > > would be > > > > > helpful to visualize how it should be. > > > > > > > > > > I think Greg removed source-maps recently, but if we're all ok > > and the > > > > > solution can be reused, we could reconfigure so source maps can > > be > > > > > really useful for all users and we can finally debug more > easily > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El mié., 28 oct. 2020 a las 23:28, Josh Tynjala (< > > > > > joshtynj...@bowlerhat.dev>) > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > Today, I added a new "source-map-source-root" compiler > option. > > You > > > can > > > > > use > > > > > > it to optionally customize the "sourceRoot" field in source > > map files > > > > > > generated by the Royale compiler. > > > > > > > > > > > > It will basically assume that "sourceRoot" is equivalent to > > the root > > > > > > package in AS3/MXML. Chris, I'll use your example, where the > > path > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "../../../../../../../../../../../src/main/royale/de/cware/cweb/frontend/services/HomeAutomationHeatingService.as" > > > > > > is relative to your project directory. If you were to set a > > custom > > > > > > source-map-source-root, that path would be simplified to > > > > > > > > "de/cware/cweb/frontend/services/HomeAutomationHeatingService.as", > > > and > > > > > then > > > > > > you could pass in any value you want for the "sourceRoot". > > > > > > > > > > > > You can pass in any string for source-map-source-root, but > > some kind > > > of > > > > > URI > > > > > > is recommended. For instance, if you want to reference a > > folder on > > > your > > > > > > file system, you'd generally use a file:/// URI. A raw file > > path > > > > instead > > > > > of > > > > > > an URI may work sometimes, but I don't think that all web > > browsers > > > > > support > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Josh Tynjala > > > > > > Bowler Hat LLC <https://bowlerhat.dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 4:19 AM Christofer Dutz < > > > > > christofer.d...@c-ware.de > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while digging into Royale and it’s differences to Flex, I > > noticed > > > > > > > something which makes debugging a little difficult. > > > > > > > Source-maps contain paths to the AS code in a sort of > > hard-coded > > > > > manner: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > { > > > > > > > "version":3, > > > > > > > "file":"HomeAutomationHeatingService.js", > > > > > > > "lineCount":62, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "sources":["frameworks/projects/Language/src/main/royale/isXMLName.as"], > > > > > > > "names":[] > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I was thinking .. could it be possible to define a base > > URL for > > > > all > > > > > > > source-maps? > > > > > > > Then I could ensure I copy the sources to the right place … > > so for > > > a > > > > > > debug > > > > > > > build I could not only have the JS files in there, but also > > in a > > > > > > > sub-directory the AS code, which should make debugging a > lot > > > simpler. > > > > > > > At least with maven, we’re already producing source-jars > and > > I > > > could > > > > > > > simply use these and unpack them with the dependency > plugin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Carlos Rovira > > > > > Apache Member & Apache Royale PMC > > > > > *Apache Software Foundation* > > > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Carlos Rovira > > > Apache Member & Apache Royale PMC > > > *Apache Software Foundation* > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira > > > > > > > > > -- > Carlos Rovira > Apache Member & Apache Royale PMC > *Apache Software Foundation* > http://about.me/carlosrovira >
