The indexer project has a set of configurable optional extension to Rya.  
Things like support for geosparql, support for free text indexing, and support 
for precomputed joins (which is where the fluo integration comes in).  These 
are extensions that by default are turned off.  They can really increase the 
data plume associated with some data, which is the main reason why.

In the original port into Apache, this project was only included if you 
specified that profile.  This was because we have traditionally considered 
those features experimental and they bring in a lot of possibly unwanted 
dependencies.  Aaron refactored it to not be optional when he was updating the 
pond to reference the Apache parent Pom.  
So no alternative, but functionality that a typical user may debatably not want.

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> On Sep 14, 2016, at 8:05 PM, Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> I would have said that this is only kosher when you have an alternative to 
> the incompatibly licensed software. Is the indexer actually optional (I don't 
> have enough context)? Are there ways for me to to indexing of the same type 
> of data that don't require use of these incompatible dependencies?
> 
> Billie might be able to provide some more context too.
> 
> Aaron D. Mihalik wrote:
>>> Could we revive the indexer profile again?
>> 
>> (tl;dr: Yes.  Mentors: Please correct us if we're wrong)
>> 
>> This might be a solution.  I found a couple similar cases with Apache
>> projects and discussions related to those cases.
>> 
>> Apache Flink integrated with Amazon Kinesis [1] and [2].  Note that Kinesis
>> is an optional profile, and it's well documented in the POM why it's
>> optional.
>> 
>> (Note that NiFi got around this by using Amazon's SDK for Java [3], which
>> is purely Apache 2.0)
>> 
>> Spark uses optional profiles to build artifacts based on LGPL
>> dependencies.  Spark has to built by the user to use netlib [4][5], Ganglia
>> [6], or Kinesis [6].
>> 
>> I think a profile will work, but I'd like to see it well documented (both
>> in the POM and manual) so that we never accidentally create a release with
>> these artifacts.
>> 
>> I was going to open a separate ticket to implement this, but I think it's
>> good to track all of this effort under RYA-177.
>> 
>> --Aaron
>> 
>> [1]
>> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/release-1.1.2/flink-streaming-connectors/pom.xml#L69
>> [2]
>> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/release-1.1.2/flink-streaming-connectors/flink-connector-kinesis/pom.xml#L73
>> 
>> [3] https://github.com/apache/nifi/blob/master/pom.xml#L1316
>> 
>> [4] https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/v2.0.0/mllib/pom.xml#L120
>> [5]
>> https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/v2.0.0/docs/ml-guide.md#dependencies
>> 
>> [6] https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/v2.0.0/pom.xml#L2414
>> 
>> [7] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-198
>> [8] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-java.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:09 PM David Lotts<dlo...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great find Aaron!
>>> The ESRI library is quite comparable!
>>> 
>>> Rya via Geomesa are using *JTS Topology Suite (*JTS): (the javadocs at
>>> vividsolutions seems to be 404 )
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://tsusiatsoftware.net/jts/javadoc/com/vividsolutions/jts/geom/Geometry.html
>>> 
>>> Far from a drop-in replacement, but a path forward:
>>>     http://esri.github.io/geometry-api-java/javadoc/
>>> 
>>> Interesting, ESRI has Shape file support, but no GML, the opposite of JTS!
>>> david.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Aaron D. Mihalik<
>>> aaron.miha...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yeah, that sounds possible. I don't like the idea of having to maintain
>>>> another build/ci/release process, though.
>>>> 
>>>> More importantly, we'd also have to modify our GeoIndexer interface [1]
>>> to
>>>> something Apache Friendly.  It looks like Ersi puts out an Apache 2.0
>>>> library [2].
>>>> 
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-rya/blob/master/
>>>> extras/indexing/src/main/java/mvm/rya/indexing/GeoIndexer.java
>>>> [2] https://github.com/Esri/geometry-api-java
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 10:36 PM Jim Hughes<jn...@ccri.com>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, wasn't finding that list quickly...
>>>>> 
>>>>> It sounds like the GeoMesa/GeoTools usage might fall under this Q/A:
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/13/2016 9:25 PM, Aaron D. Mihalik wrote:
>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We've been working off of these lists:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 6:07 PM Jim Hughes<jn...@ccri.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A number of the geo-dependencies are likely from the geo-indexing
>>>> (which
>>>>>>> uses GeoMesa (Apache 2.0) which uses GeoTools and JTS).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are there options to make the geoindexing a profile, provide the
>>>> source,
>>>>>>> and not provide artifacts for that code at Apache?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, is there a list of approved licenses for Apache projects
>>>>>>> dependencies?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 09/13/2016 05:46 PM, David Lotts wrote:
>>>>>>>> This issue is a release blocker:
>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RYA-179>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> RYA-179<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RYA-179>  Review
>>>>> License /
>>>>>>>> Copyright notices on Rya Artifacts
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was able to create a 3rd party dependency license report for Rya
>>>>>>>> from the license
>>>>>>>> maven plugin.
>>>>>>>> <http://www.mojohaus.org/license-maven-plugin/>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Good: I can send the full list if you like.  Mostly ASL and clearly
>>>>>>>> permitted.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Okay: A number of CDDL and CPL licenses -- permitted if no source
>>>> code
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> included.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Needs Improvement: The following are not clearly permitted
>>> licenses:
>>>>>>>>        (cern.colt MIT license see
>>>>>>>> https://dst.lbl.gov/ACSSoftware/colt/license.html) colt
>>>>>>> (colt:colt:1.2.0 -
>>>>>>>> no url defined)
>>>>>>>>            -- this is a mistake, should be  java.util.Arrays, not
>>>>>>>> cern.colt.Arrays  -- creating an issue to eliminate dependency.
>>>>>>>>        (GNU LESSER GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE) JCalendar
>>>>>>>> (com.toedter:jcalendar:1.1.4 -
>>> http://www.toedter.com/en/jcalendar/)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) JTS Topology Suite
>>>>>>>> (com.vividsolutions:jts:1.13 -
>>>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jts-topo-suite)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Image I/O-Extensions
>>> -
>>>>>>> GeoCore
>>>>>>>> (it.geosolutions.imageio-ext:imageio-ext-geocore:1.1.13 - no url
>>>>> defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Image I/O-Extensions
>>> -
>>>>>>> Custom
>>>>>>>> Streams (it.geosolutions.imageio-ext:imageio-ext-streams:1.1.13 -
>>> no
>>>>> url
>>>>>>>> defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Improved TIFF Plugin
>>>>>>>> (it.geosolutions.imageio-ext:imageio-ext-tiff:1.1.13 - no url
>>>> defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Image I/O-Extensions
>>> -
>>>>>>>> utilities classes and methods
>>>>>>>> (it.geosolutions.imageio-ext:imageio-ext-utilities:1.1.13 - no url
>>>>>>> defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Unknown license) jai_codec (javax.media:jai_codec:1.1.3 -
>>> no
>>>>> url
>>>>>>>> defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Unknown license) jai_core (javax.media:jai_core:1.1.3 - no
>>>> url
>>>>>>>> defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Unknown license) jai_imageio (javax.media:jai_imageio:1.1 -
>>>> no
>>>>> url
>>>>>>>> defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Unknown license) jgridshift (jgridshift:jgridshift:1.0 - no
>>>> url
>>>>>>>> defined)
>>>>>>>>        (GNU Lesser General Public License) Remote Tea Runtime
>>>>>>>> (org.acplt:oncrpc:1.0.7 - http://remotetea.sourceforge.net/)
>>>>>>>>        (Unknown license) Antlr 3.4 Runtime
>>>>> (org.antlr:antlr-runtime:3.4 -
>>>>>>>> http://www.antlr.org)
>>>>>>>>        (Unknown license) Jettison (org.codehaus.jettison:
>>>> jettison:1.1
>>>>> - no
>>>>>>>> url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) API interfaces
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-api:14.3 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Grid Coverage module
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-coverage:14.3 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) OGC CQL to Filter
>>>> parser
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-cql:14.1 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) DataStore Support
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-data:14.1 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Feature Based Graphs
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Networks (org.geotools:gt-graph:14.3 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Vector grids
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-grid:14.1 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Main module
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-main:14.1 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Metadata
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-metadata:14.1 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) (OGC copyright) Open
>>>> GIS
>>>>>>>> Interfaces (org.geotools:gt-opengis:14.1 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Process
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-process:14.1 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Process Feature
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-process-feature:14.1 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Referencing services
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-referencing:14.3 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Render
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-render:14.1 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Shapefile module
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools:gt-shapefile:14.1 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) Feature transforming
>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>> source wrapper (org.geotools:gt-transform:14.1 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) XML Parsing
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools.xsd:gt-xsd-core:14.3 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) GML2 XML Support
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools.xsd:gt-xsd-gml2:14.3 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>>        (Lesser General Public License (LGPL)) GML3 XML Support
>>>>>>>> (org.geotools.xsd:gt-xsd-gml3:14.3 - no url defined)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> david.
>> 

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