Hi, James,

Sorry that I was busy during the day and couldn't check your email. I have
joined the slack channel you created. Let's discuss there.

Best,

-Yi

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 9:23 AM James DeMichele
<james.demich...@redfin.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hey, Yi! Thanks.
>
> I started a slack channel that maybe would make it easier to communicate if
> I have questions. I do have one issue that I am hitting between the 2
> different Yarn versions I think and that I am not entirely sure what to do
> about. I made a change to a Test class that was needed for a
> compilation fix:
>
> https://github.com/apache/samza/pull/1628/files#diff-34db8b18730bda1058014e87ec3ad88dfc03f79854b00a339407761d224f66e9
> and the class is TestSamzaYarnAppMasterLifecycle.scala.
>
> I'm not sure how to go about toggling this class between a compatible one
> for yarn 2.10.1 and 3.3.4.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Jamie
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 11:00 AM Yi Pan <nickpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, James,
> >
> > Thanks a lot for reporting this. I will take a look this week.
> >
> > Best!
> >
> > -Yi
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 8:20 AM James DeMichele
> > <james.demich...@redfin.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Yi. I can take a look at this. I do want to point out that your
> > current
> > > "master" branch is actually broken for using Scala 2.11.
> > >
> > > You can repro by just going into the master branch using Java 8 and
> > > compiling like this
> > >
> > > $ java -version
> > > openjdk version "1.8.0_332"
> > > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (Temurin)(build 1.8.0_332-b09)
> > > OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (Temurin)(build 25.332-b09, mixed mode)
> > >
> > > ./gradlew build -PscalaSuffix=2.11
> > >
> > > The build fails with this command using that version of Java 8 ^.
> > >
> > > Anyway, just wanted to point that out since I hit this in my branch
> > > trying to utilize the "bin/check-all.sh" script. That doesn't block
> > > me/us, but just wanted to call it out.
> > >
> > > -Jamie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 5:52 PM Yi Pan <nickpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey, James,
> > > >
> > > > In order to merge your PR without breaking the jdk8 older modules, we
> > > will
> > > > need the changes proposed here. Can you try to add those build script
> > > > changes in the same PR? We will definitely help review and merge it.
> > > >
> > > > Best!
> > > >
> > > > -Yi
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 8:00 AM James DeMichele
> > > > <james.demich...@redfin.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Also, do you have a timeline for when this could be completed?
> > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 7:16 AM James DeMichele <
> > > > > james.demich...@redfin.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > That sounds like a great solution to me if that works for y'all!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note too, the Java 11 and yarn 3 module need to only use the
> Scala
> > > 2.12
> > > > > > version of the build.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jamie
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 2:38 AM Yi Pan <nickpa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi, James,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Sorry to reply late. I just came back from a trip and had a
> > > discussion
> > > > > >> with
> > > > > >> our internal team as well. So, there is one proposal other than
> > > > > creating a
> > > > > >> branch. Let me elaborate it below:
> > > > > >> a) creating a new module samza-yarn3 that depends on YARN 3.3.0
> > and
> > > be
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> hosting module for most of the jdk11 related changes.
> > > > > >> b) modify the build script s.t. samza-yarn3 will only compile
> and
> > > > build
> > > > > >> with jdk11 and samza-yarn only compile and build with jdk8.
> > > > > >> Thus, we can have two builds: jdk8 build that builds with
> > samza-yarn
> > > > w/
> > > > > >> YARN 2.10.0, and jdk11 build that builds with samza-yanr3 w/
> YARN
> > > > 3.3.0.
> > > > > >> We
> > > > > >> can manage to publish both jdk8 and jdk11 artifacts if needed.
> > > > > >> The benefit of this approach is that we can still maintain the
> > trunk
> > > > > >> release while opening up the jdk11 support.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Let me know if that works for you and we can work together to
> get
> > > the
> > > > > code
> > > > > >> in.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Best!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -Yi
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 7:53 AM James DeMichele
> > > > > >> <james.demich...@redfin.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Hey Yi, I wanted to follow up here and figure what a path
> > forward
> > > is
> > > > > >> here.
> > > > > >> > We need to move to Java 11, and Samza currently is our only
> > > blocking
> > > > > >> issue.
> > > > > >> > In order to move to Java 11, the Yarn Cluster would need to
> run
> > on
> > > > > Java
> > > > > >> 11
> > > > > >> > correct? If that's the case, then it would need to be 3.3+. I
> > > don't
> > > > > know
> > > > > >> > what it entails on your end to have a new Major version, but
> > that
> > > > > seems
> > > > > >> > like a good option here right? Version 2 could be where we can
> > > move
> > > > > this
> > > > > >> > project forward to Java 11, while Version 1 can still remain,
> > and
> > > > > would
> > > > > >> not
> > > > > >> > break people that can't/won't upgrade to Java 11.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > -Jamie
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 9:55 AM James DeMichele <
> > > > > >> james.demich...@redfin.com
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Yeah I mean if Samza works fine with the hadoop-yarn library
> > > > running
> > > > > >> > > against a 3.3.x YARN cluster, then I don't mind keeping that
> > > > library
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> > > 2.10.x in Samza's code. But it is still a moot point in
> terms
> > of
> > > > > >> > upgrading
> > > > > >> > > your YARN cluster, since it must be upgraded to 3.3.x+ in
> > order
> > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > >> > able
> > > > > >> > > to run the Cluster with Java 11.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > @Yi, I think that moving to a new major version might be the
> > > > > solution
> > > > > >> > > here. That way Linkedin can still have a pathway of
> upgrading
> > > code
> > > > > for
> > > > > >> > the
> > > > > >> > > old legacy 1.x version of Samza. While a new major version
> of
> > > 2.x
> > > > of
> > > > > >> > Samza
> > > > > >> > > could then make it a requirement that it runs with a YARN
> > > cluster
> > > > of
> > > > > >> > 3.3.x
> > > > > >> > > if you want to use Java 11.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > The only issue there is that you'll probably need to
> backport
> > > > > changes
> > > > > >> > > between the 2 versions. But in all honestly, this project
> does
> > > not
> > > > > >> look
> > > > > >> > > extremely active with commits so it might not be that big
> of a
> > > > > >> problem.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > -Jamie
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 9:08 PM Malcolm McFarland <
> > > > > >> mmcfarl...@cavulus.com
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> Hi all,
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> I've been doing a little bit of testing with Samza and
> Hadoop
> > > > > 3.3.4;
> > > > > >> > >> afaict, in light testing, Samza seems to work fine using
> the
> > > > 2.10.x
> > > > > >> > >> hadoop-yarn library against a YARN cluster running 3.3.x.
> As
> > > > Jamie
> > > > > >> > pointed
> > > > > >> > >> out, YARN didn't incorporate Java 11 compatibility until
> > > v3.3.0 (
> > > > > >> > >> https://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r3.3.0/index.html). Are
> there
> > > any
> > > > > >> unit
> > > > > >> > >> tests
> > > > > >> > >> in Samza that verify compatibility against a YARN cluster?
> If
> > > so,
> > > > > >> that
> > > > > >> > >> could be a place to validate YARN v2.10/v3.3
> > > cross-compatibility.
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> Just throwing my 2 cents out there,
> > > > > >> > >> Malcolm McFarland
> > > > > >> > >> Cavulus
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 6:27 PM James DeMichele
> > > > > >> > >> <james.demich...@redfin.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > Hey Yi,
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > Thanks for getting back to me. I have not tried the older
> > > yarn
> > > > > >> cluster
> > > > > >> > >> > version yet in the Samza app running against 3.3.4 but I
> am
> > > > wary
> > > > > it
> > > > > >> > >> would
> > > > > >> > >> > work. Yarn itself is not compatible at 2.10.1 with Java
> 11
> > so
> > > > you
> > > > > >> > would
> > > > > >> > >> > have to update yarn even if the Java library here wasn't
> > > > updated.
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > Could we move this version I'm proposing to a 2.x version
> > of
> > > > > >> Samza? So
> > > > > >> > >> > people that wanted to move forward with yarn upgrade and
> > > Samza
> > > > > and
> > > > > >> > Java
> > > > > >> > >> 11
> > > > > >> > >> > (like us) could do so? Then 1.x could only be java 8
> > > compatible
> > > > > and
> > > > > >> > 2.x
> > > > > >> > >> > could be java 11.
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > Jamie
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2022, 6:44 PM Yi Pan <nickpa...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > > Hey, James,
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > Thanks for the ping. @prateek, can we have someone to
> > > review
> > > > > this
> > > > > >> > >> change?
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > One question: have you tested the change w/ the older
> > YARN
> > > > > >> cluster
> > > > > >> > >> > version
> > > > > >> > >> > > (running 2.10.1)? If this change requires YARN cluster
> > > > upgrade
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> > >> 3.3.4
> > > > > >> > >> > as
> > > > > >> > >> > > well, that may be a breaking change to existing Samza
> > users
> > > > > (i.e.
> > > > > >> > >> > LinkedIn
> > > > > >> > >> > > is still running a YARN cluster with version 2.10.1).
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > Best and apologize for the delay.
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > -Yi
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 8:56 AM James DeMichele
> > > > > >> > >> > > <james.demich...@redfin.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > Hey y'all. I just am not sure how to get some
> traction
> > on
> > > > > these
> > > > > >> > >> Java 11
> > > > > >> > >> > > > PRs.
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/samza/pull/1628
> > > > > >> > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/samza-hello-samza/pull/87
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > Would someone that is a maintainer for Samza just let
> > us
> > > > know
> > > > > >> that
> > > > > >> > >> > y'all
> > > > > >> > >> > > > are looking at them? I can stop pestering you :)
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > I ran all tests in both PRs, all pass. I also
> confirmed
> > > > that
> > > > > >> using
> > > > > >> > >> my
> > > > > >> > >> > > Samza
> > > > > >> > >> > > > PR in the Hello World app all works with Java 11.
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > -Jamie
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
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