They are implicitly binding iff the voter is a PPMC member. Saying “(binding)” 
is just a courtesy to the RM. 

When announcing the result the RM should distinguish binding from non- binding 
votes. 

Non-binding votes don’t “count” but can alert the PPMC to problems and so are 
worth taking seriously.

Julian

> On Dec 22, 2022, at 10:15, Riley Kuttruff <r...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Julian,
> 
> Are PPMC votes implicitly binding or does it need to be explicitly stated?
> 
> Riley
> 
>> On 2022/12/22 17:27:09 Julian Hyde wrote:
>> Thomas, (and others on this thread), it is helpful if you provide rationale 
>> for your vote. What steps did you take to verify the release? Did you 
>> encounter any matters of concern?
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>>>> On Dec 21, 2022, at 3:05 PM, Thomas G Loubrieu <tloubr...@apache.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>>> On 2022/12/20 16:12:07 Julian Hyde wrote:
>>>> If NASA has contributed these files to SDAP we’re fine. 
>>>> 
>>>> Julian
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2022, at 5:51 PM, Stepheny Perez <skpe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Julian,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Those are test files, some are custom but some aren’t. For example 
>>>>> 20181231090000-JPL-L4_GHRSST-SSTfnd-MUR25-GLOB-v02.0-fv04.2.nc is a 
>>>>> publicly accessible NASA file. Would you advise us to remove these? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Stepheny
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2022/12/20 00:17:00 Julian Hyde wrote:
>>>>>> The vote email is much improved; thank you!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I downloaded the artifacts using svn, checked signatures (.asc files),
>>>>>> LICENSE, NOTICE, DISCLAIMER, VERSION.txt, file headers; I verified
>>>>>> that the contents of each tar file matches the corresponding git
>>>>>> commit. Checked for binary files.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I see that hashes of the src.tar.gz files have changed since the
>>>>>> previous rc2 vote, and they are signed with your key rather than Nga's
>>>>>> key. That's OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I see that sdap-ingester contains some large binary files with .nc,
>>>>>> .h5 and .nc4 suffixes. Are those files covered by the Apache license?
>>>>>> Are they generated? (It's OK to include binary files in a release,
>>>>>> provided that the project owns the copyright, but not OK to include
>>>>>> generated files.) I am going to assume that they are owned by the
>>>>>> project and not generated; please let me know if I am mistaken.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PS Riley: Yes, you definitely can vote. RMs usually add the following
>>>>>> line to their vote emails: "Here's my vote: +1 (binding)".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PPS Since we have one only one active mentor, I am going to ask other
>>>>>> IPMC members to take a look at these artifacts and vote. Even if they
>>>>>> discover problems that I have not, it will still help us get to a good
>>>>>> release faster.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:17 AM Riley Kuttruff <r...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 from me too if I can.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Riley
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2022/12/19 19:05:43 Stepheny Perez wrote:
>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Stepheny
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2022/12/19 18:58:47 Riley Kuttruff wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This is the second attempt to approve Apache SDAP (incubating) 
>>>>>>>>> release candidate rc2 for version 1.0.0.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There were no changes to the code between this and the previous 
>>>>>>>>> attempt to release rc2.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Changes made between previous candidate (rc1) and this one (rc2) are 
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> follows:
>>>>>>>>> - Added README
>>>>>>>>> - Added DISCLAIMER
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Instructions for building docker images from source can be found here:
>>>>>>>>> https://incubator-sdap-nexus.readthedocs.io/en/latest/build.html
>>>>>>>>> Instructions for deploying locally to test can be found here:
>>>>>>>>> https://incubator-sdap-nexus.readthedocs.io/en/latest/quickstart.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The tags to be voted on are 1.0.0-rc2:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - nexusproto:
>>>>>>>>>  - URL: 
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-sdap-nexusproto/tree/1.0.0-rc2
>>>>>>>>>  - Commit: f3c726e69997436dd9ee6f9a993d4c95ee490b6f
>>>>>>>>> - ingester:
>>>>>>>>>  - URL: 
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-sdap-ingester/tree/1.0.0-rc2
>>>>>>>>>  - Commit: 2c8a9d35320f11a5db2534802f43366ddaff2fea
>>>>>>>>> - nexus:
>>>>>>>>>  - URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-sdap-nexus/tree/1.0.0-rc2
>>>>>>>>>  - Commit: f60e98331ac29b57ca40322f8f96e98a5c69e553
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The release files, including signatures, digests, etc. can be found 
>>>>>>>>> at:
>>>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/sdap/apache-sdap-1.0.0-rc2/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For verification, the hashes (SHA-512) of the .tar.gz artifacts we 
>>>>>>>>> are voting on are as follows:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> apache-sdap-ingester-1.0.0-src.tar.gz:
>>>>>>>>> db380c3002351e65ec3581a3ff0cacbb7092f46292b0a656a78a919e1409738442e845731050a2160a556a7818f22b2ab4bb6da437200bc0a62419332de49ad7
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> apache-sdap-nexus-1.0.0-src.tar.gz:
>>>>>>>>> da34e9830cf5126bac498180d7cdd95bc2cfc13535c7b4355ba51de64e3589a385a969e0cf1a89fa77e436b30c99a48abffab4b4ef03b23982aa33c2e83e8dbd
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> apache-sdap-nexusproto-1.0.0-src.tar.gz:
>>>>>>>>> 05dc8e96d9c49207750c1da13f630493e8d08f5e68733742c157ac6c85ede29aca25f3c94cd706acbbe21cee41ebc052a880b4d6ce859bf510bcc2d66d8f88b2
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Release artifacts are signed with the following key:
>>>>>>>>> https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4e98c4a32026656e14e0b570fc20035a010e3b7b
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache SDAP (incubating) 
>>>>>>>>> 1.0.0.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The vote is open for 72 hours and passes if at least 3 +1 PMC votes 
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> cast.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> PLEASE NOTE: Do not reply with a vote from your work email as it can 
>>>>>>>>> mangle the links. To vote, go to 
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@sdap.apache.org, log in and 
>>>>>>>>> send your reply from there.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache SDAP (incubating) 1.0.0
>>>>>>>>> [ ] +0 No opinion
>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because ...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>> Riley
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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