Oh, I just found another sceniro that current ParticipatedEvent cannot
handle. It's timeout,
 if we don't have the StartedEvent, we cannot tell if the invocation
is timeout or not.

Willem Jiang

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On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:00 PM Longchun Zhang <longc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sure, You are right, I mean the none transaction resource operations.
>
> The framework should support most general condition. We can't assume
> all the micro-service do have local transactions supporting.
> and sometimes micro-service will leverage DB transaction and other
> None transaction
> resource related operations in the same time.
>
> As you said We can send a Participate-Start-Event to Alpha 'Synchronously'
> before do any business operations,
> A sub_transaction_id can be generated in the same time and send with
> Participate-Start-Event to Alpha.
> Alpha can recorded it and use it in the confirm or cancel phases. and in
> the omega side sub_transaction_id should be
> recorded with every followed business operations in order to cancel or
> confirm those operations with this id.
>
> After the business operation we can send a Participate-End-Event to Alpha
> with status 'Asynchronously'.
>
> Best,
>
> Longchun Zhang
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 4:27 PM Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Longchun,
> >
> > Thanks for reporting this issue. The ParticipatedEvent is designed to
> > track the success transaction which means if the transaction is
> > failed, we could leverage the local transactional API (Spring
> > Transactional AOP)to do the clean up work instead of waiting for Omega
> > invoke cancel method.
> > You may argue what if there are some other resource allocation in the
> > try method and it cannot be cleaned even with the @Tranactional
> > annotation.  I think we could consider to add ParticipateStartedEvent
> > and ParticipateEndedEvent to fix this kind of problem.
> >
> > Any thoughts on this?
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:58 PM Longchun Zhang <longc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Recently I am reading the TCC implementation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Current implementation is: In the try phase, embedded Omega agent will
> > send
> > > a try participate request to alpha server ‘after’ done the try operation.
> > > And then in the final phase Alpha will use the participate information to
> > > do confirm or cancel operation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There is a race condition here: If the omega crashed ‘before’ sending
> > > participate request, and left garbage in the system, Alpha server will do
> > > nothing about this Omega agent because Alpha server haven’t any
> > information
> > > about this participate Omega.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To avoid this condition, I suggest that Omega agent send participate
> > > request ‘before’ do the business operation. Alpha will get enough
> > > information to cancel this operation even when the Omega crashed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What do you guys think about it?
> >

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