Thanks a bunch,

I saw the svn commit.

Regards
JB

On 06/29/2011 03:11 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
I've just create a svn repository
    http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/servicemix/smx5/trunk
and a JIRA for a git mirror
     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3736

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 17:54, Guillaume Nodet<gno...@gmail.com>  wrote:
Last week, I've been discussing with a few committers about the
ServiceMix roadmap.
So I'd like to communicate those thoughts to a wider audience.

We've been discussing already that the value of ServiceMix (which was
the JBI layer in ServiceMix 3
and the container side in ServiceMix 4) has moved mostly to Camel and
Karaf respectively.  The remainining
bits are mostly the NMR.  However, the value of the NMR is not in the
NMR itself, but rather the NMR was
supposed to enable various container-level features.  However, we
haven't really built those features so
that the *real* value of the NMR is not that high currently.

So, what we've been discussing is to focus on that added value in a
more transparent way by tweaking
Camel a bit to support global interceptors, so that one could deploy
the real routes without having to
force the use of a specific transport such as the current NMR.  This
way, a user could test / develop
the Camel routes or take existing Camel routes and deploy them in
ServiceMix, thereby transparently
enabling a bunch of useful features.  We've been thinking about adding
message tracing / timing / auditing,
sending test messages, security checks, viewing flows, persistent
modification of camel
routes, camel route versioning, etc...  That need to be coupled with a
web console similar to the
Camel / ActiveMQ web consoles, to actually display all the data to
provide useful information for monitoring
Camel routes and help diagnosing problems in production for example.
There's really nothing magically new
here and some of those features were actually part of ServiceMix 3,
but without much focus on those and
they have always kept a bit on the side.  The idea is really to make
ServiceMix the best possible container
for deploying Camel based integration.

Additional things that could be pushed inside ServiceMix 5 would be a
Tomcat based container deployment
option (for those that don't need OSGi), a new manual similar to what
we have in Karaf (maybe reusing
parts of it).  We'd also need a new website (without the technical
doc, as we have for Karaf I think).

On the maintenance of the JBI components and NMR/JBI layer, I think we
should keep them in smx4.
People wanting to deploy those could easily add a pointer to the
servicemix 4 features descriptors and
deploy the needed features.  So we could officially deprecate those
and tell users they won't be
available in smx5.    This also means that there's really not much to
reuse from smx4, so smx5 would
have its own new and dedicated svn area.

FWIW, I plan to devote a big chunk of my time on ServiceMix 5 in the
coming months, so those are not
faithful wishes, but really something I want to start implementing asap.

Feedback welcomed!

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