On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:41, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:13 AM, James Strachan <ja...@fusesource.com> wrote: >> On 29 June 2011 10:14, Geert Schuring <ge...@schuring.eu> wrote: >>> I too have doubts about the Tomcat distribution. The software stack that >>> ServiceMix consists of is already very complex, and contains all kinds of >>> frameworks and components that can be used outside ServiceMix or OSGi as >>> well. In my opinion ServiceMix should focus on providing a consistent, well >>> documented environment instead of trying to serve as much different ways of >>> implementation as possible. I think that's an important reason why the >>> documentation has been so slow and painful for SMX 3 & 4. >>> >>> I think starting new documenation from scratch for SMX 5 is a very good >>> idea. Combined with using scalate and storing the documentation in >>> subversion, we should be able to write version specific and accurate >>> documentation. >>> >>> Would it be possible to drop spring entirely and switch to blueprint for SMX >>> 5? That again would simplify the examples and documentation, and would make >>> SMX 5 more accessible to new users. >> >> An ESB is all about integration; so dropping support for things people >> use is generally bad; though for sure we should recommend on OSGi >> folks use blueprint as its simpler & smaller; though we should still >> support folks using Spring. >> > > Yeah Spring is widely used. Its just that spring-dm is ... not their > finest moment. > Maybe that Eclipse Virgo is better (isnt that spring-dm 2.0).
The ideas in spring-dm are really good, I think the main problem is that they had the requirement to support spring namespaces with no changes, and that it does not fit well in OSGi. The Aries blueprint impl did not had such constraints, so it was easier to have something better ;-) > >> -- >> James >> ------- >> FuseSource >> Email: ja...@fusesource.com >> Web: http://fusesource.com >> Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews >> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/ >> >> Open Source Integration and Messaging >> > > > > -- > Claus Ibsen > ----------------- > FuseSource > Email: cib...@fusesource.com > Web: http://fusesource.com > Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews > Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/ > -- ------------------------ Guillaume Nodet ------------------------ Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ ------------------------ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
