Hi Jean-Baptiste,

Yes, I think it would be better to move forward on the Karaf
integration distribution instead of doing a new ServiceMix release.
Excellent proposal!

As soon as we have a first release of that new distribution, we can
update the main page and the download page on the website. In the
meanwhile, perhaps we could start with a news item to point people to
the issue for the Karaf integration distribution so they can follow
along with the progress?

Regards,

Gert Vanthienen


On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 6:52 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Gert
>
> That's a fair comment. Few weeks ago I proposed to create a Karaf
> "integration" distribution containing the "equivalent" of SMX.
>
> So, I propose to move forward on the Karaf integration distribution
> and document the "move" in SMX for users.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 3:44 PM Gert Vanthienen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jean-Baptiste,
> >
> > We want to start moving people away from ServiceMix and towards Karaf,
> > so I'm not sure we should be doing any new ServiceMix releases. It
> > might make more sense to spend this time and energy on the Karaf side
> > and provide a good alternative there.
> >
> > We could do an integration distribution with Karaf, Camel, CXF, ...
> > prepackaged within the Karaf community. That would probably have to
> > become a subproject, to avoid having the Karaf releases themselves
> > depend on a well-aligned set of ActiveMQ, Camel & CXF releases. That's
> > a discussion that we've had before on the mailing lists, so we could
> > revisit that idea. That does involve quite a bit of work on
> > maintaining the distribution and releasing it regularly, but it would
> > be the most convenient solution for users.
> >
> > Another solution that might work, is just to have a "cookbook" page
> > somewhere in the Karaf documentation where we could document what
> > features to install and where we could keep a list of versions of
> > ActiveMQ, Camel & CXF that work well together. That's probably easier
> > to do and would probably require less time and effort. My personal
> > preference would go to this second solution: working with Karaf
> > features for those three projects has become so much easier over the
> > past few years, that many users are probably already creating their
> > own integration solution that way.
> >
> > We should probably discuss both options further on the Karaf dev list,
> > but either one would give us a way to point people towards Karaf.
> > Instead of doing the new ServiceMix release and adding that to the
> > website, we point users to the first release of the Karaf integration
> > distribution or we point them to the cookbook page where they can
> > discover how to build their own integration container. In both cases,
> > we have taken one more step in the move to Karaf.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Gert Vanthienen
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 7:19 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Before moving forward on Karaf "move", I propose two actions:
> > >
> > > 1. Rename master branch as main
> > > 2. Prepare SMX 8.0.0 updating dependency versions (using Karaf 4.4.x,
> > > Camel 3.x, ActiveMQ 5.18.x, maybe removing activiti if the update is
> > > not possible)
> > >
> > > Thoughts ?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB

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