Craig Russell <[email protected]> 于2020年2月11日周二 下午12:57写道:

> Hi,
>
> Maybe I'm misreading the sheet but it looks like Ling Yue and Hongtao Gao
> have not contributed anything to the project. It looks like they have not
> been active on mail lists either. If this is true, I'd probably remove them
> from the proposed PMC. Include them as committers if they had contributions
> before incubating.
>
> Yongsheng Peng did contribute a PR so I would not drop him from the PMC.
>

This is PR[1]. Fix one license and notice.

Peng is a personal friend to me.
But wearing the PPMC hat, I don't think this PR is good enough for a PMC.
>From my check, ShardingSphere main repo has 106 contributors, 68
contributors have more than one commit. Clearly, we haven't 68~100 PMC
members or committers.
I think unless he showing up to share more contributions, we should not set
the bar lower for him than others.


[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-shardingsphere/pull/2078


Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108


>
> Finally, I would include all of the PPMC and committers who did contribute
> during the incubation process.
>
> Just a suggestion: If you want only people who are paying attention, you
> could start a doc with the graduation proposal and ask folks on the dev@
> list to add their names if they are interested in becoming part of the PMC.
>
> Craig
>
> > On Feb 6, 2020, at 8:47 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > I agree to remove Yongsheng Peng and always welcome him come back when he
> > feel free.
> >
> > Other initial PPMC had contributed before ShardingSphere go to
> incubator, I
> > prefer keep them and let them as PMC in future.
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > Liang Zhang (John)
> > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> >
> >
> > Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四 下午7:44写道:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> From my reading of this data, all initial PPMC and current committers
> >> are/were contributing to the project a lot with only one exception,
> >> Yongsheng Peng.
> >> He is SkyWalking's PMC, used to ask contributions to the
> ShardingSphere, so
> >> he was added when the project joined the incubator. But during the
> journey,
> >> he didn't do that. I think it makes sense to remove him.
> >>
> >> What do others think?
> >>
> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>
> >>
> >> [email protected] <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四 下午5:28写道:
> >>
> >>> Sure, please see google excel doc. [1]
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19U4t0rAnLbQW02qZlZ1lwZCB7sZxGUiMMmv8zEpee9g/edit?usp=sharing
> >>>
> >>> ------------------
> >>>
> >>> Liang Zhang (John)
> >>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四 下午5:14写道:
> >>>
> >>>> Liang
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you change this to a google excel doc? The email is hard to
> read.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [email protected] <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四 下午5:12写道:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The statistics after incubator:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PPMCs:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> | *Name*            | *Mails* | *Assigned Issues* | *Merged PRs* |
> >>> *Code
> >>>>> ++* | *Code --* | *Doc ++* | *Doc --* |
> >>>>> | ----------------- | ------- | ----------------- | ------------ |
> >>>>> --------- | --------- | -------- | -------- |
> >>>>> | Hao Cao           | 6       | 2                 | 14           |
> >>> 1,278
> >>>>>  | 44        | 5        | 5        |
> >>>>> | Hongjun Du        | 12      | 38                | 67           |
> >>> 38,788
> >>>>> | 33,670    | 2        | 0        |
> >>>>> | Hongtao Gao       | 2       | 0                 | 0            | 0
> >>>>>  | 0         | 0        | 0        |
> >>>>> | Juan Pan          | 167     | 85                | 319          |
> >>> 91,675
> >>>>> | 71,611    | 1,300,919| 1,284,356|
> >>>>> | Jun Zhao          | 46      | 76                | 130          |
> >>>> 166,356
> >>>>>  | 170,890   | 2,138    | 2,122    |
> >>>>> | Liang Zhang       | 279     | 130               | 164          |
> >>>>> 1,198,935 | 1,245,278 | 691,617  | 54,337   |
> >>>>> | Ling Yue          | 0       | 0                 | 0            | 0
> >>>>>  | 0         | 0        | 0        |
> >>>>> | Qingyang Chen     | 9       | 10                | 8            |
> >>> 24,115
> >>>>> | 18,901    | 237      | 0        |
> >>>>> | Sheng Wu          | 175     | 1                 | 2            | 18
> >>>>> | 1         | 0        | 0        |
> >>>>> | Xiaoguang Ma      | 1       | 2                 | 17           |
> >>> 7,279
> >>>>>  | 4,741     | 173      | 60       |
> >>>>> | Yi Yang           | 56      | 83                | 101          |
> >>> 24,556
> >>>>> | 13,150    | 1,289    | 217      |
> >>>>> | Yonglun Zhang     | 87      | 126               | 124          |
> >>>> 103,754
> >>>>>  | 65,066    | 18,733   | 18,249   |
> >>>>> | Yongsheng Peng    | 3       | 0                 | 1            |
> >> 262
> >>>>>  | 0         | 0        | 0        |
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Committers:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> | *Name*            | *Mails* | *Assigned Issues* | *Merged PRs* |
> >>> *Code
> >>>>> ++* | *Code --* | *Doc ++* | *Doc --* |
> >>>>> | ----------------- | ------- | ----------------- | ------------ |
> >>>>> --------- | --------- | -------- | -------- |
> >>>>> | Guangyuan Wang    | 28      | 5                 | 21           |
> >>> 6,130
> >>>>>  | 2,458     | 290      | 190      |
> >>>>> | Haisheng Sun      | 18      | 20                | 26           |
> >>> 4,791
> >>>>>  | 1,877     | 12       | 8        |
> >>>>> | Xiaofeng Jiang    | 5       | 21                | 31           |
> >>> 29,296
> >>>>> | 291       | 0        | 0        |
> >>>>> | Qi Wang           | 5       | 21                | 62           |
> >>> 24,040
> >>>>> | 10,437    | 1,978    | 1,968    |
> >>>>> | Ya Li             | 0       | 6                 | 21           |
> >>> 6,070
> >>>>>  | 1,282     | 55       | 34       |
> >>>>> | Yanan Zhao        | 0       | 10                | 23           |
> >>> 82,293
> >>>>> | 3,864     | 0        | 897      |
> >>>>> | Wen Ouyang        | 2       | 9                 | 19           |
> >> 673
> >>>>>  | 11        | 2        | 0        |
> >>>>> | Zhiyi Yan         | 6       | 4                 | 18           |
> >>> 10,693
> >>>>> | 2,117     | 13       | 11       |
> >>>>> | ZongLei Dong      | 20      | 7                 | 21           |
> >>> 3,637
> >>>>>  | 3,520     | 20       | 18       |
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The statistics before incubator:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> | *Name*            | *Code ++* | *Code --* |
> >>>>> | ----------------- | --------- | --------- |
> >>>>> | Hao Cao           | 136,639   | 112,458   |
> >>>>> | Hongjun Du        | 63,910    | 54,490    |
> >>>>> | Hongtao Gao       | 15,523    | 20,038    |
> >>>>> | Juan Pan          | 102,269   | 93,376    |
> >>>>> | Jun Zhao          | 24,483    | 22,539    |
> >>>>> | Liang Zhang       | 818,555   | 892,431   |
> >>>>> | Ling Yue          | 404       | 213       |
> >>>>> | Qingyang Chen     | 3,900     | 1,205     |
> >>>>> | Sheng Wu          | 21        | 21        |
> >>>>> | Xiaoguang Ma      | 15,138    | 6,025     |
> >>>>> | Yi Yang           | 4,600     | 1,840     |
> >>>>> | Yonglun Zhang     | 14,171    | 8,645     |
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Our community care about now and future, we respect history too.
> >> Thank
> >>>> you
> >>>>> for every PPMC and committer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please feel free to discuss about the PMC list for graduation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
> >>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四 下午1:54写道:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四
> >> 上午2:00写道:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Before I list all PPMCs and committers, we need to discuss the
> >> rule
> >>>> of
> >>>>>> how
> >>>>>>> to define `inactive` PPMC.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The rules maybe:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  - Stop contribution after ShardingSphere goto incubator.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If there are initial PPMCs staying in this way, I prefer to keep
> >> them
> >>>> as
> >>>>>> committer only.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  - Rare contribution after ShardingSphere goto incubator. We
> >> need
> >>> to
> >>>>>>> define how to define `rare` too.
> >>>>>>>  - Stop contribution during past period until now. The
> >> definition
> >>> of
> >>>>>>> `during past period` maybe one year or half year.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I prefer at least one year(or equal 2, the whole incubator
> >> journey).
> >>>>>> If they still contribute anything from time to time, even talk at
> >> the
> >>>>>> Conference/Meetup in public, I hope we should trust them and keep
> >>> them
> >>>> in
> >>>>>> final PMCs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If we decide follow these rules, we may let these PPMCs as
> >>>> committers.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And do we need to discuss the rules to upgrade committers to PMC?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any suggestions?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If no objection, we could just do it. Let's list this as a default
> >> in
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> resolution.
> >>>>>> Liang, after you have the stat, we could exclude `Stop contribution
> >>>> after
> >>>>>> ShardingSphere goto incubator` people from the final PMC list.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
> >>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2020年2月5日周三 下午9:28写道:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Zonglei Dong <[email protected]> 于2020年2月5日周三 下午9:19写道:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Sheng, Liang,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> As a committer, I want to take on greater responsibility,
> >> make
> >>>> more
> >>>>>>>>> contribution to ShardingSphere and take better practice for
> >>>> Apache
> >>>>>> Way
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> the future.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I understand some permissions only for PMC(or PPMC), e.g
> >>> release
> >>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>> version, Does there are any difference between PMC and
> >>> committer?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For release, the committer is enough to go for a release, you
> >>> just
> >>>>> need
> >>>>>>>> PMC's vote to make release official.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As an active PMC member should
> >>>>>>>> 1. Watching the project to follow the Apache way
> >>>>>>>> 2. Watching the branding issue, and work on the issues if find
> >>>>> it(such
> >>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>> talk with other committer/contributor or 3rd party)
> >>>>>>>> 3. Find and promote new committer and PMC member
> >>>>>>>> For more, read https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also, in the Apache, we don't(also shouldn't) require people
> >>> always
> >>>>>>> active.
> >>>>>>>> You could do these in part-time, or when you have time.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>> Best wishes.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Zonglei Dong
> >>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 02/5/2020 20:34,Sheng Wu<[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I had the impression that inactive PPMC will be excluded to
> >>>> become
> >>>>>> PMC.
> >>>>>>>>> ALL in or not?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Do you have the list? I think if some of them stop
> >> contributing
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> project after joining the incubator, I could exclude those.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I nominate myself as project VP because my responsibility is
> >>>>> monthly
> >>>>>>>>> report
> >>>>>>>>> to incubator, and I will in charge of to report to ASF in
> >>> future.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would like to keep all PPMC members to PMC, and keep all
> >>>> current
> >>>>>>>>> committers as committers too.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Personally, I prefer to move all committers to PMC. I trust
> >>> they
> >>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>> follow the more experienced PMC's suggestions and they
> >> wouldn't
> >>>>> break
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> ASF rules intentionally.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> To All committer(but not PMC)
> >>>>>>>>> What do you think? I would like to support their own
> >> decision.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Juan Pan <[email protected]> 于2020年2月5日周三 下午6:55写道:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would like to keep all PPMC members to PMC, and keep all
> >>>> current
> >>>>>>>>> committers as committers too.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I had the impression that inactive PPMC will be excluded to
> >>>> become
> >>>>>> PMC.
> >>>>>>>>> ALL in or not?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Juan Pan (Trista)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
> >>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 02/5/2020 17:38,[email protected]<
> >> [email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I want discuss about project VP, PMC and committer list after
> >>>>>>> graduation.
> >>>>>>>>> I would like to keep all PPMC members to PMC, and keep all
> >>>> current
> >>>>>>>>> committers as committers too.
> >>>>>>>>> The almost committers are new guys for ShardingSphere, they
> >> may
> >>>>> need
> >>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>> experiences for open source community governance, we can vote
> >>>>>>> committers
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> PMC one by one after graduation.
> >>>>>>>>> I nominate myself as project VP because my responsibility is
> >>>>> monthly
> >>>>>>>> report
> >>>>>>>>> to incubator, and I will in charge of to report to ASF in
> >>> future.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any suggestion?
> >>>>>>>>> ------------------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
> >>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]> 于2020年1月20日周一
> >>>>>> 下午3:26写道:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Got it, it means those threads are not block for our
> >>> graduation,
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> could be done anytime.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yes
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ------------------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
> >>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Juan Pan <[email protected]> 于2020年1月20日周一 上午10:14写道:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Got it, it means those threads are not block for our
> >>> graduation,
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> could be done anytime.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Juan Pan (Trista)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
> >>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 01/19/2020 10:37,Sheng Wu<[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> As far as those docs and examples already in the Apache
> >> repos,
> >>> I
> >>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>> those are irrelavent.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Juan Pan <[email protected]> 于2020年1月19日周日 上午10:30写道:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> +1 Agreeing to put graduation into our upcoming agenda. BTW,
> >> do
> >>>> you
> >>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>> we need  finish the work discussed in other thread, like
> >> moving
> >>>> doc
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> example repos to ShardingSphere repo?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Juan Pan (Trista)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
> >>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 01/17/2020 23:39,[email protected]<
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I list remain issues here:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. Remove author information in java code, copyright should
> >>>> belong
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> ASF.
> >>>>>>>>> 2. Some remain codes[1] still using the old package name
> >>>>>>>>> `io.shardingsphere`, we plan to rename them as
> >>> `io.opensharding`.
> >>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/OpenSharding>3. Let the major
> >> contributors
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> sign
> >>>>>>>>> ICLA
> >>>>>>>>> if they haven't singed yet.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Please complement the list if I missing anything.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/OpenSharding
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ------------------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
> >>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2020年1月17日周五 下午6:01写道:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> From my perspective, we should. Like I said in another
> >> thread.
> >>>>>>>>> I think we should be ready to consider and filter whether we
> >>> have
> >>>>>> left
> >>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>> issue before graduation.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]> 于2020年1月17日周五
> >>>>>> 下午3:10写道:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hello community,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'd like to talk about graduation as TLP for Apache
> >>>>>>>>> ShardingSphere(Incubator).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We were open source at 16th Jan 2016, and entered into ASF
> >>>>> incubator
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> 10th Nov 2018. During the past period in incubator, our
> >>> community
> >>>>>> grow
> >>>>>>> up
> >>>>>>>>> quickly.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I summarize some data below:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> - There are 1301 emails sent by 159 people in dev
> >> mailing-list
> >>>>>> excepted
> >>>>>>>>> GitBox forwarded;
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> - 2539 Issues created during ASF incubating, 2468 Issues
> >>> resolved
> >>>>>>> during
> >>>>>>>>> ASF incubating;
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> - 1073 PRs created during ASF incubating, 918 PRs merged
> >> during
> >>>> ASF
> >>>>>>>>> incubating;
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> - There are 89 contributors for now;
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> - There are 4 versions released successfully conformant to
> >>> Apache
> >>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>> policy by 3 release managers;
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> - There are 2 new PPMCs and 8 new committers were invited to
> >>> join
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> community.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We had already finished the Podling Maturity Assessment for
> >>>>>>>>> ShardingSphere[1], the 34 items are all passed.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We had resolved all branding issues which include Logo,
> >> GitHub
> >>>>> repo,
> >>>>>>>>> document, website and DockerHub image.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Can we talk about when will start to consider about graduate?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-shardingsphere/blob/dev/MATURITY.md
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ------------------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
> Craig L Russell
> [email protected]
>
>

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