On Sunday, March 10, 2013, wrote:

> Thanks for the insight Ate.
>
> Rene, I think we should take Ate's suggestion and send an email to
> legal-discussion@ (please CC shindig-dev@).  If they say it is OK than we
> continue the discussion about integrating the patch.


I agree that legal should be consulted if we intent to ship a war or other
archive with any neo4j (or other agpl) licensed binaries included.

As a first mitigation step, why don't we make this a separate maven module
and only ship the source and non-inclusive jar?  It should not be a problem
to ship a jar and source that only references the neo4j libs as runtime
dependencies.



>
>
> On Mar 9, 2013, at 7:56 AM, René Peinl <rene.pe...@hof-university.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Ate,
> > thanks for your comments. I already thought about this and asked the
> guys from neo technologies. Here is the answer from Peter Neubauer.
> >
> > in principle (IANAL) it is ok to have ALv2 licensed code binding to GPL
> code. In runtime, the user will not be shielded from the GPL core, which
> means the runtime will have GPL characteristics when you plug in Neo4j.
> That is exactly the intent, and should be ok. The bindings-code is
> development-time Apache license, regarding contributions and copyright etc,
> so I think this should be ok.
> >
> > I'm not quite sure if that answers your question. I can further
> investigate if necessary.
> > Regards
> > René
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Ate Douma [mailto:a...@douma.nu]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. März 2013 14:18
> > An: dev@shindig.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Review Request: Alternative database backend based on graph
> database neo4j
> >
> > Just from the peanut gallery, but neo4j is AGPL licensed.
> > Normally any database backend access which is abstracted away behind
> 'plain'
> > JDBC interfaces are allright to use, commercial versions or otherwise
> licensed, because the end-user would have the option to choose whatever
> (compatible) database they want to use.
> >
> > However with neo4j this seems different. Even with only optional support
> for neo4j, the neo4j integration might require explicit neo4j (Java) APIs
> and dependencies? I haven't reviewed the code for this, but if it imports
> neo4j APIs then their AGPL license can be too invasive and then possibly
> not acceptable for uses within our AL2.0 licensed codebase.
> > Or even if that could be allowed, I would make sure to check and ask
> (legal-discuss@ etc.) if it would be acceptable from ASF policy POV.
> >
> > Regards, Ate
> >
> > On 03/07/2013 07:46 PM, Henry Saputra wrote:
> >> This is good news.
> >>
> >> One immediate comment is about the package name.
> >> Would it be possible to put it under org.apache.shindig rather than
> >> the de.hofuniversity?
> >>
> >> This would make the contributions uniform like from other companies
> >> and organizations.
> >>
> >> - Henry
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/3/6 René Peinl <rene.pe...@hof-university.de>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------
> >>> This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit:
> >>> https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/
> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Review request for shindig.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Description
> >>> -------
> >>>
> >>> Review for Shindig-1911
> >>> Alternative database backend based on graph database neo4j Any
> >>> comments welcome. We are committed to further improve this.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This addresses bug Shindig-1911.
> >>>     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/Shindig-1911
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Diffs
> >>> -----
> >>>
> >>>   /trunk/java/neo4j-backend/pom.xml PRE-CREATION
> >>>
> >>> /trunk/java/neo4j-backend/src/main/java/de/hofuniversity/iisys/graphb
> >>> ackend/Constants.java
> >>> PRE-CREATION
> >>>
> >>> /trunk/java/neo4j-backend/src/main/java/de/hofuniversity/iisys/graphb
> >>> ackend/GraphAPIModule.java
> >>> PRE-CREATION
> >>>
> >>> /trunk/java/neo4j-backend/src/main/java/de/hofuniversity/iisys/graphb
> >>> ackend/GraphConfig.java
> >>> PRE-CREATION
> >>>
> >>> /trunk/java/neo4j-backend/src/main/java/de/hofuniversity/iisys/graphb
> >>> ackend/GuiceModule.java
> >>> PRE-CREATION
> >>>
> >>> /trunk/java/neo4j-backend/src/main/java/de/hofuniversity/iisys/graphb
> >>> acke

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