Personally, Prometheus makes more sense to me. Self-obs seems not powerful
enough yet.

> Cons:
   OAP didn't store dynamic metrics except for the items related to three
scopes(service, service_instance, and endpoint)

For this, I think we should have separated discussion about this, I am
thinking about this for a while, service, and service_instance are not the
issue, don't support extension for this is the root cause.
Such as, if we have 3rd service level extension metrics, with tag name and
value, then OAL and the currently existing system design still works.
We should have a separated thread to discuss this.


Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108


Hongtao Gao <[email protected]> 于2019年11月26日周二 下午4:22写道:

> That's another problem I didn't have the answer. At this point we have two
> choices for it:
> 1. OAP self-observability module with telemetry module.
> Pros:
>     It's our project, and we have the experience and abilities to do
> whatever we want.
> Cons:
>    OAP didn't store dynamic metrics except for the items related to three
> scopes(service, service_instance, and endpoint)
> 2. Prometheus with telemetry module.
> Pros:
>     It can store any metrics we want.
> Cons:
>    it brings some performance overhead, especially to complete a minimal
> deployment.
>
> So what's your suggestion?
>
> 付金林 Jinlin Fu <[email protected]> 于2019年11月26日周二 上午11:01写道:
>
> > what do you think should be contain  prometheus in  operator?
> >
> > 付金林 Jinlin Fu <[email protected]> 于2019年11月26日周二 上午10:51写道:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > If using webhook in SWCK project,i recommend using kubebuilder,which it
> > > can automatically generate the webhook code.also operator-sdk  does not
> > do
> > > it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hongtao Gao <[email protected]> 于2019年11月26日周二 上午10:04写道:
> > >
> > >> Hi everyone
> > >>
> > >> I'm glad to share my proposal with you about to setup SkyWalking Cloud
> > on
> > >> Kubernetes(SWCK) project.
> > >>
> > >> The aim of SWCK is to enable users to configure and manage instances
> of
> > >> SkyWalking components using a simple declarative configuration that
> > will,
> > >> in response, create, configure, and manage those components.
> > >>
> > >> The following is the doc of this proposal. I'm hoping to hear thoughts
> > >> from
> > >> you soon.
> > >>
> > >> [PROPOSAL]SkyWalking Cloud on Kubernetes(SWCK) -
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tPv3ppjNEMa5frX2qRzUXVNky4U4TuTr8qzaiU2wpso/edit?usp=sharing
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------
> > >> Hongtao Gao
> > >>
> > >> Apache SkyWalking && Apache ShardingSphere
> > >> Twitter, @hanahmily
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Jinlin Fu*
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Jinlin Fu*
> >
>
>
> --
> Hongtao Gao
>
> Apache SkyWalking && Apache ShardingSphere
> Twitter, @hanahmily
>

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